[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 3698, Issue 2

Daniel Swords danielswords at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 12 14:14:33 PDT 2018 

I second the Engel. Very quiet. I’m not sure how long mine will run on the house battery (I have run it for ~48 hrs without charging) but it seems to be amazingly efficient and I suspect a small stowable solar charger would keep it going indefinitely. Mine will also easily freeze anything even in this hot Louisiana climate. 


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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Refridgeration (mahseer at kos.net)
  2. Re: Refridgeration (Gordon Laco)
  3. Re: Refridgeration (Mike Lehman)
  4. Re: Boarding Ladders (Marcelo D. Gentinetta)


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Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 00:06:08 -0400
From: "mahseer at kos.net" <mahseer at kos.net>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Refridgeration
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Gord look at an Engel fridge/freezer as an option, runs on either 12volts or 120volts, my unit draws 2.5amps when running on a 60/40 cycle with one group 27 battery this has lasted for a weekend at anchor.
John Boor

>> Hello gang -
>> 
>> So we?re back at home after provisioning the boat for tomorrow?s departure?
>> and as I do every year, I?m wondering if I should install refrigeration
>> some day.
>> 
>> It would be nice to carry fresh meats longer than four days without having
>> to plan to ice up again? on the other hand it?s nice not to have to worry
>> about battery capacity?. on the other hand the reality of cruising on our
>> coast is that it?s really nice to stooge up the inside channels on our
>> Georgian Bay coast, and that usually entails at least a couple of hours of
>> motoring every day, often more.
>> 
>> If I put refrigeration in, and only used it when the engine was running,
>> and still put say two blocks of ice in the box, surely the refrigeration
>> would make the blocks last forever, effectively refreezing them each day
>> when motoring.  If we didn?t motor, two blocks would last two days?
>> 
>> Anyone else grappled with this?  Before the suggestions come in: sorry, I
>> would never put an array of solar panels on SURPRISE.
>> 
>> Gord Laco
>> #426 Surprise
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 10:53:35 -0400
From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
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Thx will do

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> On Aug 12, 2018, at 12:06 AM, mahseer--- via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> Gord look at an Engel fridge/freezer as an option, runs on either 12volts or 120volts, my unit draws 2.5amps when running on a 60/40 cycle with one group 27 battery this has lasted for a weekend at anchor.
> John Boor
> 
>>> Hello gang -
>>> 
>>> So we?re back at home after provisioning the boat for tomorrow?s departure?
>>> and as I do every year, I?m wondering if I should install refrigeration
>>> some day.
>>> 
>>> It would be nice to carry fresh meats longer than four days without having
>>> to plan to ice up again? on the other hand it?s nice not to have to worry
>>> about battery capacity?. on the other hand the reality of cruising on our
>>> coast is that it?s really nice to stooge up the inside channels on our
>>> Georgian Bay coast, and that usually entails at least a couple of hours of
>>> motoring every day, often more.
>>> 
>>> If I put refrigeration in, and only used it when the engine was running,
>>> and still put say two blocks of ice in the box, surely the refrigeration
>>> would make the blocks last forever, effectively refreezing them each day
>>> when motoring.  If we didn?t motor, two blocks would last two days?
>>> 
>>> Anyone else grappled with this?  Before the suggestions come in: sorry, I
>>> would never put an array of solar panels on SURPRISE.
>>> 
>>> Gord Laco
>>> #426 Surprise
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 11:37:04 -0400
From: Mike Lehman <mlehman at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Refridgeration
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I installed an Isotherm $800 air cooler 12v system in our Alberg in 2015. I
used it for a 1 month cruise on the Chesapeake. I powered it with a single
group 27 deep cycle battery. I ran the frig 24 hours a day. After 3 days
without starting the engine (a Universal M430 diesel), I was still able to
start the engine without a problem on the same battery. The refrigeration
is so quiet you cannot hear it and it maintained 37 F. I am very pleased
with the performance.

On Sun, Aug 12, 2018, 10:53 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Thx will do
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 12, 2018, at 12:06 AM, mahseer--- via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > Gord look at an Engel fridge/freezer as an option, runs on either
> 12volts or 120volts, my unit draws 2.5amps when running on a 60/40 cycle
> with one group 27 battery this has lasted for a weekend at anchor.
> > John Boor
> >
> >>> Hello gang -
> >>>
> >>> So we?re back at home after provisioning the boat for tomorrow?s
> departure?
> >>> and as I do every year, I?m wondering if I should install refrigeration
> >>> some day.
> >>>
> >>> It would be nice to carry fresh meats longer than four days without
> having
> >>> to plan to ice up again? on the other hand it?s nice not to have to
> worry
> >>> about battery capacity?. on the other hand the reality of cruising on
> our
> >>> coast is that it?s really nice to stooge up the inside channels on our
> >>> Georgian Bay coast, and that usually entails at least a couple of
> hours of
> >>> motoring every day, often more.
> >>>
> >>> If I put refrigeration in, and only used it when the engine was
> running,
> >>> and still put say two blocks of ice in the box, surely the
> refrigeration
> >>> would make the blocks last forever, effectively refreezing them each
> day
> >>> when motoring.  If we didn?t motor, two blocks would last two days?
> >>>
> >>> Anyone else grappled with this?  Before the suggestions come in:
> sorry, I
> >>> would never put an array of solar panels on SURPRISE.
> >>>
> >>> Gord Laco
> >>> #426 Surprise
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 10:55:21 -0500
From: "Marcelo D. Gentinetta" <vanguard64 at cox.net>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Boarding Ladders
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Hi Daniel,
I am glad you had a good sail yesterday. Regardless of the type of boarding ladder you choose, if you single-hand I would use a tether and jackline system to avoid falling off to begin with. I use a wooden/rope ladder that I made for myself. It is fashioned after the traditional pilot?s ladder with flat 4 X 12 inch rungs that are connected by a loop of thick 3 strand rope. There are 2 carbiners at the top which are hooked to the base of the shrouds. The ladder is long enough (5 rungs) that you can get your first foot on without much difficulty when in the water. The wood slats never contact the hull sides because of the rope around each rung. 
Take care,
Marcelo

> On Aug 12, 2018, at 6:12 AM, Amy & David Swanson via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> #229 came to us with a beautiful folding wooden ladder that mounted to the side teak (port side).  While bulky and heavy, it worked very well and we found it much easier to board the dinghy or climb in after swimming than a stern ladder.
> 
> 
> On 8/11/2018 1:26 PM, Gordon Laco via Public-List wrote:
>> ...So all that said, I have to ask? why would you want a side ladder?  A ladder mounted at the stern is much more useful if you ever have to recover a person from the water, and for recreational use, is much easier to use due to the backstay being there as a handy hand hold when you?re climbing in or out.  (I recall your boat doesn?t have pulpits?)
>> 
>> Cheers -
>> 
>> Gordon Laco
>> #426 Surprise
>> 
>> 
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