[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 3646, Issue 2

Michael Grosh dickdurk at gmail.com
Mon May 28 07:17:22 PDT 2018


I believe a full size hank on genoa for the A30 works out to 163%. Most
likely a self furler is smaller than that.
I had a 135% #2 built that really has become my primary cruising sail. The
jib I have (100%) I use occasionally but I don't think it very useful for
racing purposes.
Your mileage may vary, almost certainly.
The #2 was built full luff, with a raised foot (for looking under). I like
it a lot.
Michael Grosh
#220

On May 28, 2018 7:58 AM, "Sheldon Shikoluk via Public-List" <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

message 1
Thanks for the reply, my genoa is a 170 and my main was reefed and flat.
Guess I need to invest in a small headsail (100%) to use on windy days??

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> Good morning -
>
> I?d suggest that you were underpowered? and a rolled headsail results in a
> very poorly shaped headsail delivering more heeling force than forward
> drive.    It is not possible to sail well with a partially rolled
> headsail.
>
> What size is your genoa when normally set?  If it is a 150 or less, you?d
> have been better off with it set normally, but with the sheet leads
shifted
> aft slightly to induce twist, and the halyard housed hard to pull draft
> forward.  The trouble with partially rolling the sail is that you end up
> with a baggy sail with the draft in the wrong place? sometimes causing
more
> trouble than a larger flatter sail.
>
> Was your reefed main flat? A poorly reefed main can actually cause more
> heeling forces than an unreeled one.  In addition, if the main isn?t
reefed
> so it is flatter than a full main, you?ll end up with a lot of weather
> helm? the boat will have to drag her rudder through the water and that
saps
> speed.
>
> Forgive me if your main was well reefed? but I have seen many poorly
> reefed mains? a properly reefed sail doesn?t need it?s reef points tied at
> all? all the load is on the reef clew which draws the new foot of the sail
> hard up against the boom.  If there is any load on the reef points at all,
> then the clew reef line is too slack, resulting in a baggy sail.  The only
> thing the reef points should do is bunch up the bunt or loose fabric of
the
> reefed sail so you can see under it? nothing else.
>
> Taken all together, the upshot of this is that if a boat has shortened
> sail too much for the conditions, and the means of shortening sail
prevents
> what sail is still set from driving her along, she?ll feel unhappy? if
> there?s a chop, she?ll lack power to drive through it.  If she?s beating,
> she won?t point and will feel soggy? if she?s racing, the fleet will draw
> away? if she?s cruising, well she won?t get where she wants to go with
much
> grace and pleasure?
>
> Gordon Laco
> #426 Surprise
>
>
>
>
> > On May 27, 2018, at 7:17 AM, Sheldon Shikoluk via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > Raced my A30 in 20 knt. winds yesterday, had a single reef in main and
> > rolled genoa up to 100%. couldnt sail well with the chop any suggestions
> > Rainbow A30
> >
> > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 9:06 AM, <public-list-request at lists.alberg30.org
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> >>   1. Re: Second race of the year... (Joseph Balderson)
> >>   2. Re: Second race of the year... (Gordon Laco)
> >>   3. Re: Second race of the year... (Gordon Laco)
> >>   4. Re: Second race of the year... (Joseph Balderson)
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 06:33:08 -0400
> >> From: Joseph Balderson <joebinc at gmail.com>
> >> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >>        <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Second race of the year...
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> >> How many degrees will Suprise tack through in 8kts of breeze and a
> fairly
> >> smooth sea?
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 11:27 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello gang -
> >>>
> >>> Well I missed writing up the first race of the year, as has been my
> habit
> >>> for a while now, so here?s the Second Race of the Year.
> >>>
> >>> The first race is perhaps better laid aside, due to a regrettable
lapse
> >> on
> >>> my part involving forgetting to put the spinnaker aboard.   We
finished
> >> 3rd
> >>> but the experience was marred by the three of us bickering all the way
> >>> around the course trying to place blame for the big forget.   Well I
> >> should
> >>> say it was the crew against me, a two way bicker, not three.  I feel
> >> quite
> >>> justified in suggesting that they should not have believed me when I
> said
> >>> earlier in the week that the ?chute was still aboard from last year?
my
> >>> track record should have alerted to them to the fact that I rarely
> recall
> >>> things like that correctly.  Clearly they should have challenged me,
> and
> >>> that challenge would have driven me to check and THAT would have
> revealed
> >>> that the sail was not in the boat.   If they?d done that, we?d have
had
> >> the
> >>> sail and surely would have fought our way up to a first place finish.
> If
> >>> we?d had the spinnaker on board.  Their position was that I should
have
> >>> checked myself.  Weak, I say.
> >>>
> >>> There was another problem.  This one I place squarely on the race
> >>> committee.  Due to a bit of confusion on their part, and a drifting
> >>> windward mark, they initiated the start sequence four times.  One time
> >>> involved the guy on the horn trying it out? his timid staccato beeps
> made
> >>> everyone start their watches? Then the mark drifted and the second
> start
> >>> sequence was cancelled while the crash boat sped out to windward to
> catch
> >>> it and anchor it properly? I forget what happened with the third
> >>> (accidental beep again I think) then there was the real start.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, we were charging in, glorying in our brand new genoa being
used
> >>> for the first time, when I realized with ten seconds to go that we
were
> >>> alone? the rest of our fleet was about  minute and ten seconds behind
> us.
> >>> Yup? we were making a perfect start a minute early.  The upshot of all
> >> that
> >>> was having to wheel around and start after everyone.  We clawed our
way
> >> up
> >>> from last place to third, but as usual, we were left wondering how
> things
> >>> might have turned out if we?d only started better?and if we?d had the
> >>> spinnaker...
> >>>
> >>> Well I guess I did tell about the first race after all? on to the
> second.
> >>>
> >>> This time we DID have the spinnaker aboard, but Steve had to cancel so
> it
> >>> was only Clint and I to run the boat.  I decided not to fly the sail.
> We
> >>> got a clean start, marvelled at how with the new sail we could keep up
> >> with
> >>> SUNDANCE ,our mortal enemy, upwind? but it all fell apart at the
> leeward
> >>> mark after the run when we became entangled in a squabbling mass of
> >> vermin
> >>> (Shark class yachts) in addition to the majestic TO LIFE, the custom
> >>> Killing 50 which had started with A Fleet five minutes behind us and
> was
> >>> overtaking.  By the time we got clear of all the dead air (and the
fine
> >>> breeze had subsided to a sigh of course) SUNDANCE as 1/3 of the
> windward
> >>> leg ahead of us and we were never close to them again.   We ended up
> 4th
> >> in
> >>> our fleet? not great but ahead of MAID MARION, so we took solace in
> that.
> >>>
> >>> Oh well, there?s always next week? bring on the 2018 racing season!
> >>>
> >>> Gordon Laco
> >>> #426 SURPRISE
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 08:31:52 -0400
> >> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> >> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >>        <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Second race of the year...
> >> Message-ID: <E1D2CE4B-3185-4520-A476-CDAA1D58D7F2 at csolve.net>
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> >>
> >> With leeway, I don?t reckon she can do better than 100 degrees.  She?ll
> >> point a little higher, but unless it?s blowing it?s not worth jamming
> her
> >> up that high? she just slows down and leeway increases.
> >>
> >> She comes to life upwind in wind over 12 knots.   We are competitive in
> >> that wind speed and above, but performance drops dramatically when the
> air
> >> is below 8-10 knots compared to our foes.  Funny thing is that we come
> to
> >> life again in drifting conditions when we?re gliding along at 0.5
knots?
> >> we are deadly in very light airs.  I think the reason is that once we
> get
> >> her moving, she doesn?t stop.  Our narrowness and weight play for us so
> >> long as I don?t wiggle around too much.  We accelerate in puffs much
> more
> >> slowly than the lighter boats, but once we get going, we glide a long
> way
> >> in the lulls when they just stop.
> >>
> >> There are no Alberg 30?s who care to race where we sail so we?re always
> in
> >> a mixed fleet racing against Pearson 28, Aloha 27, CS 27 C&C 27, Irwin
> 31,
> >> Tanzer 7.5, Niagara 26 etc on PHRF.  There is a Grampion 26 who
> sometimes
> >> comes out? ?Grumps? are ugly as sin, but are good sailors, as is the
> Tanzer
> >> 22? both those boats somewhat anomalies in their tribes so people used
> to
> >> make jokes that their designers were just lucky with them when all
their
> >> larger and smaller boats in their lines were such poor performers.
> >>
> >> Gordon Laco
> >> #426 Surprise
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 26, 2018, at 6:33 AM, Joseph Balderson via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> How many degrees will Suprise tack through in 8kts of breeze and a
> fairly
> >>> smooth sea?
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 11:27 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello gang -
> >>>>
> >>>> Well I missed writing up the first race of the year, as has been my
> >> habit
> >>>> for a while now, so here?s the Second Race of the Year.
> >>>>
> >>>> The first race is perhaps better laid aside, due to a regrettable
> lapse
> >> on
> >>>> my part involving forgetting to put the spinnaker aboard.   We
> finished
> >> 3rd
> >>>> but the experience was marred by the three of us bickering all the
way
> >>>> around the course trying to place blame for the big forget.   Well I
> >> should
> >>>> say it was the crew against me, a two way bicker, not three.  I feel
> >> quite
> >>>> justified in suggesting that they should not have believed me when I
> >> said
> >>>> earlier in the week that the ?chute was still aboard from last year?
> my
> >>>> track record should have alerted to them to the fact that I rarely
> >> recall
> >>>> things like that correctly.  Clearly they should have challenged me,
> and
> >>>> that challenge would have driven me to check and THAT would have
> >> revealed
> >>>> that the sail was not in the boat.   If they?d done that, we?d have
> had
> >> the
> >>>> sail and surely would have fought our way up to a first place finish.
> >> If
> >>>> we?d had the spinnaker on board.  Their position was that I should
> have
> >>>> checked myself.  Weak, I say.
> >>>>
> >>>> There was another problem.  This one I place squarely on the race
> >>>> committee.  Due to a bit of confusion on their part, and a drifting
> >>>> windward mark, they initiated the start sequence four times.  One
time
> >>>> involved the guy on the horn trying it out? his timid staccato beeps
> >> made
> >>>> everyone start their watches? Then the mark drifted and the second
> start
> >>>> sequence was cancelled while the crash boat sped out to windward to
> >> catch
> >>>> it and anchor it properly? I forget what happened with the third
> >>>> (accidental beep again I think) then there was the real start.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, we were charging in, glorying in our brand new genoa being
> used
> >>>> for the first time, when I realized with ten seconds to go that we
> were
> >>>> alone? the rest of our fleet was about  minute and ten seconds behind
> >> us.
> >>>> Yup? we were making a perfect start a minute early.  The upshot of
all
> >> that
> >>>> was having to wheel around and start after everyone.  We clawed our
> way
> >> up
> >>>> from last place to third, but as usual, we were left wondering how
> >> things
> >>>> might have turned out if we?d only started better?and if we?d had the
> >>>> spinnaker...
> >>>>
> >>>> Well I guess I did tell about the first race after all? on to the
> >> second.
> >>>>
> >>>> This time we DID have the spinnaker aboard, but Steve had to cancel
so
> >> it
> >>>> was only Clint and I to run the boat.  I decided not to fly the sail.
> >> We
> >>>> got a clean start, marvelled at how with the new sail we could keep
up
> >> with
> >>>> SUNDANCE ,our mortal enemy, upwind? but it all fell apart at the
> leeward
> >>>> mark after the run when we became entangled in a squabbling mass of
> >> vermin
> >>>> (Shark class yachts) in addition to the majestic TO LIFE, the custom
> >>>> Killing 50 which had started with A Fleet five minutes behind us and
> was
> >>>> overtaking.  By the time we got clear of all the dead air (and the
> fine
> >>>> breeze had subsided to a sigh of course) SUNDANCE as 1/3 of the
> windward
> >>>> leg ahead of us and we were never close to them again.   We ended up
> >> 4th in
> >>>> our fleet? not great but ahead of MAID MARION, so we took solace in
> >> that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh well, there?s always next week? bring on the 2018 racing season!
> >>>>
> >>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>> #426 SURPRISE
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 08:42:14 -0400
> >> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> >> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >>        <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Second race of the year...
> >> Message-ID: <E22B198E-A36B-4C68-921C-FB616BF6642D at csolve.net>
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> >>
> >> And all that reminds me of when I had the honour of being one of HMS
> BEE?s
> >> captains? she?s an apes-War of 1812 replica schooner gunboat.  She
> could be
> >> jammed up to seem to point quite high (for a schooner) but the leeway
up
> >> there was heartbreaking.
> >>
> >> When doing her best, laid off a bit and footing along, I would stand by
> >> the helmsman and look to leeward through the foremast?s shrouds? THAT
> was
> >> where we were going, not where the bowsprit was pointing.  But that was
> >> better than what she?d do jammed up as high as she?d point?
> >>
> >> Well you have to love gaff rigged schooners for what they are? and
> there?s
> >> lots to love... but they don?t sail like sloops can.   That said, I
> think
> >> BLUENOSE, the famous Grand Banks schooner, unbeaten during her career,
> >> still holds the speed record for average speed sailing around a
> triangular
> >> course? I think I read she averaged 17 knots: beating, running and
> >> reaching.
> >>
> >> Gordon Laco
> >> #426 Surprise
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 26, 2018, at 6:33 AM, Joseph Balderson via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> How many degrees will Suprise tack through in 8kts of breeze and a
> fairly
> >>> smooth sea?
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 11:27 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello gang -
> >>>>
> >>>> Well I missed writing up the first race of the year, as has been my
> >> habit
> >>>> for a while now, so here?s the Second Race of the Year.
> >>>>
> >>>> The first race is perhaps better laid aside, due to a regrettable
> lapse
> >> on
> >>>> my part involving forgetting to put the spinnaker aboard.   We
> finished
> >> 3rd
> >>>> but the experience was marred by the three of us bickering all the
way
> >>>> around the course trying to place blame for the big forget.   Well I
> >> should
> >>>> say it was the crew against me, a two way bicker, not three.  I feel
> >> quite
> >>>> justified in suggesting that they should not have believed me when I
> >> said
> >>>> earlier in the week that the ?chute was still aboard from last year?
> my
> >>>> track record should have alerted to them to the fact that I rarely
> >> recall
> >>>> things like that correctly.  Clearly they should have challenged me,
> and
> >>>> that challenge would have driven me to check and THAT would have
> >> revealed
> >>>> that the sail was not in the boat.   If they?d done that, we?d have
> had
> >> the
> >>>> sail and surely would have fought our way up to a first place finish.
> >> If
> >>>> we?d had the spinnaker on board.  Their position was that I should
> have
> >>>> checked myself.  Weak, I say.
> >>>>
> >>>> There was another problem.  This one I place squarely on the race
> >>>> committee.  Due to a bit of confusion on their part, and a drifting
> >>>> windward mark, they initiated the start sequence four times.  One
time
> >>>> involved the guy on the horn trying it out? his timid staccato beeps
> >> made
> >>>> everyone start their watches? Then the mark drifted and the second
> start
> >>>> sequence was cancelled while the crash boat sped out to windward to
> >> catch
> >>>> it and anchor it properly? I forget what happened with the third
> >>>> (accidental beep again I think) then there was the real start.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, we were charging in, glorying in our brand new genoa being
> used
> >>>> for the first time, when I realized with ten seconds to go that we
> were
> >>>> alone? the rest of our fleet was about  minute and ten seconds behind
> >> us.
> >>>> Yup? we were making a perfect start a minute early.  The upshot of
all
> >> that
> >>>> was having to wheel around and start after everyone.  We clawed our
> way
> >> up
> >>>> from last place to third, but as usual, we were left wondering how
> >> things
> >>>> might have turned out if we?d only started better?and if we?d had the
> >>>> spinnaker...
> >>>>
> >>>> Well I guess I did tell about the first race after all? on to the
> >> second.
> >>>>
> >>>> This time we DID have the spinnaker aboard, but Steve had to cancel
so
> >> it
> >>>> was only Clint and I to run the boat.  I decided not to fly the sail.
> >> We
> >>>> got a clean start, marvelled at how with the new sail we could keep
up
> >> with
> >>>> SUNDANCE ,our mortal enemy, upwind? but it all fell apart at the
> leeward
> >>>> mark after the run when we became entangled in a squabbling mass of
> >> vermin
> >>>> (Shark class yachts) in addition to the majestic TO LIFE, the custom
> >>>> Killing 50 which had started with A Fleet five minutes behind us and
> was
> >>>> overtaking.  By the time we got clear of all the dead air (and the
> fine
> >>>> breeze had subsided to a sigh of course) SUNDANCE as 1/3 of the
> windward
> >>>> leg ahead of us and we were never close to them again.   We ended up
> >> 4th in
> >>>> our fleet? not great but ahead of MAID MARION, so we took solace in
> >> that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh well, there?s always next week? bring on the 2018 racing season!
> >>>>
> >>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>> #426 SURPRISE
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> These businesses support your Association:
> >>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> >>>> Please support them.
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> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 09:06:06 -0400
> >> From: Joseph Balderson <joebinc at gmail.com>
> >> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >>        <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Second race of the year...
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> >>
> >> I'm there with pointing, 100 plus a little. So it's full and by no
> pinch.
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 26, 2018, 8:32 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> With leeway, I don?t reckon she can do better than 100 degrees.
She?ll
> >>> point a little higher, but unless it?s blowing it?s not worth jamming
> her
> >>> up that high? she just slows down and leeway increases.
> >>>
> >>> She comes to life upwind in wind over 12 knots.   We are competitive
in
> >>> that wind speed and above, but performance drops dramatically when the
> >> air
> >>> is below 8-10 knots compared to our foes.  Funny thing is that we come
> to
> >>> life again in drifting conditions when we?re gliding along at 0.5
> knots?
> >>> we are deadly in very light airs.  I think the reason is that once we
> get
> >>> her moving, she doesn?t stop.  Our narrowness and weight play for us
so
> >>> long as I don?t wiggle around too much.  We accelerate in puffs much
> more
> >>> slowly than the lighter boats, but once we get going, we glide a long
> way
> >>> in the lulls when they just stop.
> >>>
> >>> There are no Alberg 30?s who care to race where we sail so we?re
always
> >> in
> >>> a mixed fleet racing against Pearson 28, Aloha 27, CS 27 C&C 27, Irwin
> >> 31,
> >>> Tanzer 7.5, Niagara 26 etc on PHRF.  There is a Grampion 26 who
> sometimes
> >>> comes out? ?Grumps? are ugly as sin, but are good sailors, as is the
> >> Tanzer
> >>> 22? both those boats somewhat anomalies in their tribes so people used
> to
> >>> make jokes that their designers were just lucky with them when all
> their
> >>> larger and smaller boats in their lines were such poor performers.
> >>>
> >>> Gordon Laco
> >>> #426 Surprise
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On May 26, 2018, at 6:33 AM, Joseph Balderson via Public-List <
> >>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> How many degrees will Suprise tack through in 8kts of breeze and a
> >> fairly
> >>>> smooth sea?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 11:27 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello gang -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well I missed writing up the first race of the year, as has been my
> >>> habit
> >>>>> for a while now, so here?s the Second Race of the Year.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The first race is perhaps better laid aside, due to a regrettable
> >> lapse
> >>> on
> >>>>> my part involving forgetting to put the spinnaker aboard.   We
> >> finished
> >>> 3rd
> >>>>> but the experience was marred by the three of us bickering all the
> way
> >>>>> around the course trying to place blame for the big forget.   Well I
> >>> should
> >>>>> say it was the crew against me, a two way bicker, not three.  I feel
> >>> quite
> >>>>> justified in suggesting that they should not have believed me when I
> >>> said
> >>>>> earlier in the week that the ?chute was still aboard from last year?
> >> my
> >>>>> track record should have alerted to them to the fact that I rarely
> >>> recall
> >>>>> things like that correctly.  Clearly they should have challenged me,
> >> and
> >>>>> that challenge would have driven me to check and THAT would have
> >>> revealed
> >>>>> that the sail was not in the boat.   If they?d done that, we?d have
> >> had
> >>> the
> >>>>> sail and surely would have fought our way up to a first place
finish.
> >>> If
> >>>>> we?d had the spinnaker on board.  Their position was that I should
> >> have
> >>>>> checked myself.  Weak, I say.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There was another problem.  This one I place squarely on the race
> >>>>> committee.  Due to a bit of confusion on their part, and a drifting
> >>>>> windward mark, they initiated the start sequence four times.  One
> time
> >>>>> involved the guy on the horn trying it out? his timid staccato beeps
> >>> made
> >>>>> everyone start their watches? Then the mark drifted and the second
> >> start
> >>>>> sequence was cancelled while the crash boat sped out to windward to
> >>> catch
> >>>>> it and anchor it properly? I forget what happened with the third
> >>>>> (accidental beep again I think) then there was the real start.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyway, we were charging in, glorying in our brand new genoa being
> >> used
> >>>>> for the first time, when I realized with ten seconds to go that we
> >> were
> >>>>> alone? the rest of our fleet was about  minute and ten seconds
behind
> >>> us.
> >>>>> Yup? we were making a perfect start a minute early.  The upshot of
> all
> >>> that
> >>>>> was having to wheel around and start after everyone.  We clawed our
> >> way
> >>> up
> >>>>> from last place to third, but as usual, we were left wondering how
> >>> things
> >>>>> might have turned out if we?d only started better?and if we?d had
the
> >>>>> spinnaker...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well I guess I did tell about the first race after all? on to the
> >>> second.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This time we DID have the spinnaker aboard, but Steve had to cancel
> so
> >>> it
> >>>>> was only Clint and I to run the boat.  I decided not to fly the
sail.
> >>> We
> >>>>> got a clean start, marvelled at how with the new sail we could keep
> up
> >>> with
> >>>>> SUNDANCE ,our mortal enemy, upwind? but it all fell apart at the
> >> leeward
> >>>>> mark after the run when we became entangled in a squabbling mass of
> >>> vermin
> >>>>> (Shark class yachts) in addition to the majestic TO LIFE, the custom
> >>>>> Killing 50 which had started with A Fleet five minutes behind us and
> >> was
> >>>>> overtaking.  By the time we got clear of all the dead air (and the
> >> fine
> >>>>> breeze had subsided to a sigh of course) SUNDANCE as 1/3 of the
> >> windward
> >>>>> leg ahead of us and we were never close to them again.   We ended up
> >>> 4th in
> >>>>> our fleet? not great but ahead of MAID MARION, so we took solace in
> >>> that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh well, there?s always next week? bring on the 2018 racing season!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>>> #426 SURPRISE
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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