[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 3646, Issue 2

Tue May 29 20:34:12 PDT 2018

Poke fun at war all ya want, I just don't endorse crappy role models.

I think role models are important. A lot of people don't. A lot of people
get frustrated thinking about morals & values and the way those are
communicated. Too hard.

They get the idea since it's so hard to think about that it ain't worth
thinkin' about. They get the idea that anyone who puts thought into must
have somethin' wrong with'em.

Well, I disagree with those people.

It's true this is supposed to be a sailing list centered on A30s. And I
tell you what, I learned more about life on my A30 than I ever did watchin'
TV.

So maybe the argument could be made that I should shut my big preachy mouth
up and stick to the subject at hand: boats. Specifically A30s.

But, logic and politeness have never been big strengths of mine.

Zach

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:56 PM, americo silva via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> most people take our short life too serious
> i watched Mchales navy it was funny i bet a lot of servicemen found it
> funny
> MASH was funny sometimes
> If you don't like TV To poke fun at war then we should not start wars
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Zachary Smith via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > McHale's Navy is not dead! That's the problem. It's not dead at all, it
> > lives on as part of the fabric of our culture in the minds of the people
> > who watched, enjoyed, analyzed, and looked up to the characters.
> >
> > I'm not offended, I'm worried. I look at the last 50 years of cultural
> > development in the Americas with contempt. I look at where we're going
> for
> > the next 50 with fear.
> >
> > According to the CDC, 70+% of Americans are overweight or obese. Remember
> > that food triangle from the 60s? It's upside down!
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_dMkFogBFQ
> >
> > Think about that, a stupid triangle is upside down and now most of the
> > population can't even see where they pee from.
> >
> > Symbols matter!
> >
> > Zach
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Fortunately ‘McHale’s Navy’ as a TV show is long dead…
> > >
> > > But… I had a good friend in the RCN, sadly no longer with us, who
> served
> > > aboard HMCS MARGAREE as one of her officers when she visited Saigon
> > during
> > > the height of the Viet Nam War era.  He didn’t see zones where fighting
> > was
> > > happening, but did comment several times during the years I knew him
> that
> > > Saigon in the mid 1960’s “was like a gold rush boom town… Gordy you’d
> > never
> > > have known they were there to fight a war”.
> > >
> > > I realize clearly that observation is unfair to the majority of US
> > > servicemen who took their jobs seriously, hundreds of thousands who
> > > suffered terribly and also died… but perhaps there was a bit of
> McHale’s
> > > Navy going on.
> > >
> > > I would agree with you that it’s offensive to highlight that part!
> > >
> > >
> > > Gordon Laco
> > > www.gordonlaco.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 29, 2018, at 9:46 AM, Zachary Smith via Public-List <
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Slapstick is fine, showing men shirking responsibility and abusing
> > > resources while doing slapstick is not.
> > >
> > > For example the symbolism of the captain skiing behind the PT boat in
> > > episode 1 season 1. Taxes paid for that equipment and they are in a
> > warzone
> > > tasked with the responsibility of protecting us. Why is it OK for the
> > > captain to behave as a lazy, irresponsible beta?
> > >
> > > Then the captain goes on to be disrespectful to his commanding officer
> > when
> > > confronted.
> > >
> > > The roles being played are degenerate. Terrible role models.
> > >
> > > Obviously there is a large demographic that liked the show (134
> > episodes!).
> > > That is the reason I'm writing. People need to wake up to this stuff.
> > >
> > > Role models matter.
> > >
> > > Zach
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, May 29, 2018, Michael Grosh <dickdurk at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I see your point. I never really appreciated Tim Conway's comedy
> (Ensign
> > > Parker) until he was on the Carole Burnett show. the heavy on slapstick
> > > comedy of McHale's Navy I thought deserved honorable mention.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Zachary Smith <
> > zacharysmith.us at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > McHale's Navy you say? Well I hadn't heard of it so I gave an episode a
> > > watch. Seemed to be the opposite of a wholesome show. Bunch of corny
> > > slackers being foolish.
> > >
> > > Gun Smoke is corny as all get out too, but the men are men and the
> losers
> > > lose.
> > >
> > > Honesty, integrity, ethics. That's what I mean by "wholesome".
> > >
> > > Zach
> > >
> > > On Monday, May 28, 2018, Michael Grosh via Public-List <
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > McHale's Navy doesn't make your list?
> > >
> > > On May 28, 2018 3:13 PM, "Zachary Smith via Public-List" <
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > BTW you are the 1st to ever mention LIS. Most of my peers couldn't
> name a
> > > B&W show if their life depended on it.
> > >
> > > I miss the good old days of wholesome TV. Y'know, Gun Smoke, Little
> House
> > > on the Prairie, & Lassie.
> > >
> > > Zach
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> > >
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah, I suppose I’m not the first to try to be funny… sorry.
> > >
> > > I served in the RCN as an officer… during my time we had a ‘Captain
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > > Sparrow’.   He'd bark at people ‘I HAD THIS NAME FIRST!’
> > >
> > > Gord
> > > #426 SURPRISE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 28, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Zachary Smith via Public-List <
> > >
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes Gordon, it's true. I was named after the evil Dr. Zachary Smith.
> > > "Finnegan" was a close 2nd, and would've been a better sailor name.
> > >
> > > My
> > >
> > > mother wasn't having it though and while arguing about it they were
> > > watching LIS...
> > >
> > > Oh well, I have done my best to live up to the evil Dr.'s namesake.
> > >
> > > Zach
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Interesting stories Zach… but your pictures didn’t make it… could
> > >
> > > you
> > >
> > > send
> > >
> > > them directly to me please?
> > >
> > > By the way, are you old enough to have watched a 1960’s television
> > >
> > > series
> > >
> > > called ‘Lost in Space’?
> > >
> > > Gord#426 Surprise
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 28, 2018, at 1:46 PM, George Dinwiddie via Public-List <
> > >
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Zach,
> > >
> > > On 5/28/18 1:07 PM, Zachary Smith via Public-List wrote:
> > >
> > > Two stories about why I hate furlers so much (pics attached):
> > >
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > The list strips off attachments, but if you want to send them
> > >
> > > directly
> > >
> > > to me, I can post them on the website.
> > >
> > >
> > > - George
> > >
> > > --
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ----------
> > >
> > > When I remember bygone days                         George
> > >
> > > Dinwiddie
> > >
> > > I think how evening follows morn;
> > >
> > > gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
> > >
> > > So many I loved were not yet dead,
> > >
> > > http://www.Alberg30.org
> > >
> > > So many I love were not yet born.                          also
> > >
> > > see:
> > >
> > >             'The Middle' by Ogden Nash
> > >
> > > http://idiacomputing.com
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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