[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 3741, Issue 1

Marcelo D. Gentinetta vanguard64 at cox.net
Sun Oct 7 18:03:05 PDT 2018 

On my boat, I have a T-Track mounted along the SB side of the boom. Mounted on the track are 3 Garhauer reefing cheek blocks with a small deadeye on the bottom of each one. The reefing lines originate at the deadeyes pass under the boom, through the leech cringles, back down to the blocks and then forward to a large 8 inch cleat near the forward end of the boom. I usually daysail with my first and second reef lines in place regardless of the weather. If cruising, I’ll have all 3 ready to go. There are also 2 padeyes along the boom to keep the lines from sagging when not in use. The large single cleat can accommodate all 3 lines. 
Today, it was blowing 15-20k when we went out. I had my second reef on right from the start together with the 150%. We sailed along nicely with about 20 degree heel doing 5 1/2 to 6 k. 

Marcelo
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> On Oct 7, 2018, at 6:33 PM, Daniel Swords via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> I have two single leech reefing lines (one on the port side and one on the starboard side of the boom) and I reef (and unreef) often. I use 3/16” (~5mm) reefing lines for the leech. Since I reef at the mast I can’t help much with part of your question but: I run my leech reefing lines from the boom, up to a small dinghy block attached to the clew with a dyneema soft shackle, back down through a cheek block on the boom and then along the boom to a clam cleat on the boom near the mast (I sail singlehanded and have to go to the mast to pull down the sail to the tack reefing cringle anyway). The dinghy block on the clew stays on the same side of the sail as the cheek block so the bunt of the sail does not get pinched as I pull in the reefing line. I have no problems with chafe. For me this has made reefing and shaking out the reef much, much easier by eliminating a lot of friction. I also replaced my reefing hook with a snap shackle so I have no concern that the tack cringle will slip off the hook just as I go to retention the halyard. Daniel SwordsSolitude, #525
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>   1. Re: Standing Blocks for Genoa Track (Jonathan Bresler)
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> Thank you all for your thoughts and suggestions.
> Much appreciated.  Off to the boat show now to
> look, see, and decide.
> 
> Related question regarding blocks.
> The main has two reefs.  Have a line rigged for the
> first reef.  Line runs from the boom up to the clew reef
> cringle, back down to the boom, forward to a single block
> hanging from the gooseneck, down a block attached near
> the base of the mast, and (finally!) back to the clutch on the
> cabin top in front of a Lewmar 16 winch.
> 
> The tack has a ring that I place under the reefing hook on the
> gooseneck.
> 
> Want to add a line and similar arrangement for the second reef.
> 
> The question:  two single blocks at the gooseneck and the base of the mast
> or one double block at each location?
> 
> Suggestions for a better way to run the reefing line?
> 
> Seems to work well, used it most recently on Friday when the mast head
> was reading 15 to 18 knots.  The boat had pretty much the same speed
> with full main as with a single reef.  The single reefed condition was
> noticeably
> more pleasant.  Less heel, less pressure on the boat, overall more
> enjoyable.
> 
> Jonathan
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> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Stephen Gwyn via Public-List <
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>> The sheaves in my blocks are looking worn.
>> Standing blocks are tempting. In light air
>> and slop they do flop around. And I use different
>> jibs which have different sheeting positions so
>> a bungy to the lifeline is a less attractive option.
>> 
>> SG
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> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
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> I?d suggest your reefing system would work much better if you ended the reefing clew line on the boom near the gooseneck.  You have to be up there anyway to put the tack ring on the hook? so why not combine the operations?  The tack has to go on first, the the halyard tension is restored, the the clew is pulled down.
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> Further, a #16 will put a terrible amount of tension on that reefing line very easily.  You?ll have to be quite careful not to overstrain the new foot of the main along the reef? The imagine that you?ve pulled down your reef? then you tack.  Because the geometry of the situation at the gooseneck changes, your reef will either slack off or tension up.  The later could easily tear the main if you?ve given that winch a 1/4 turn too much?
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> Gordon Laco
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>> On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you all for your thoughts and suggestions.
>> Much appreciated.  Off to the boat show now to
>> look, see, and decide.
>> 
>> Related question regarding blocks.
>> The main has two reefs.  Have a line rigged for the
>> first reef.  Line runs from the boom up to the clew reef
>> cringle, back down to the boom, forward to a single block
>> hanging from the gooseneck, down a block attached near
>> the base of the mast, and (finally!) back to the clutch on the
>> cabin top in front of a Lewmar 16 winch.
>> 
>> The tack has a ring that I place under the reefing hook on the
>> gooseneck.
>> 
>> Want to add a line and similar arrangement for the second reef.
>> 
>> The question:  two single blocks at the gooseneck and the base of the mast
>> or one double block at each location?
>> 
>> Suggestions for a better way to run the reefing line?
>> 
>> Seems to work well, used it most recently on Friday when the mast head
>> was reading 15 to 18 knots.  The boat had pretty much the same speed
>> with full main as with a single reef.  The single reefed condition was
>> noticeably
>> more pleasant.  Less heel, less pressure on the boat, overall more
>> enjoyable.
>> 
>> Jonathan
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>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Stephen Gwyn via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>>> The sheaves in my blocks are looking worn.
>>> Standing blocks are tempting. In light air
>>> and slop they do flop around. And I use different
>>> jibs which have different sheeting positions so
>>> a bungy to the lifeline is a less attractive option.
>>> 
>>> SG
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