[Public-List] Cockpit hatches
David Fay
davidfay999 at gmail.com
Fri Mar 8 05:46:02 PST 2019
In case you missed it, there was some discussion of inspection hatches on the list last summer. I've included some of it below. If you search the archives, you'll probably find a lot more.
In my own case, I was fortunate enough to buy an A30 with a Bomar hatch already installed in the cockpit floor. It's heavy duty aluminum and very sturdy with two robust latches. Whoever installed it placed it well to give good access to both the stuffing box and the rear of the engine. I don't know the dimensions offhand but it is almost as wide as the cockpit floor. I'd urge you to get the biggest one that will fit in the cockpit floor. You want one you can get your shoulders through.
David
Blue Teal #284
> On Mar 8, 2019, at 8:15 AM, Jeffrey Randall via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> .
> Sorry to have stolen the last question about stuffing boxes. But as it is
> a problem child for me, it begs the question, what is the preferred method
> to gain access to said box.
>
> Wes was kind enough to let me know about Tempress hatches and they may be
> the fix. Are there any others out there who have added hatch access and
> their thoughts. I see the tempress is slightly raised off the deck floor
> and was wondering if there are other products that are more flush. The
> bowmar products appear to be so, but at a vastly different price point.
>
> Just asking, while awaiting the snow melt for spring prep.
>
> Jeff Randall
> Yankee Star, 296
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Jeff Randall
> JCMedical
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> On Jun 28, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Greenhouse, Matthew A. (GSFC-6650) via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> Folks should note that metal hatches often get too hot for bare feet. So one must include a teak cockpit grating to avoid complaints from the rest of the family who are typically unconcerned with engine access. Secondly, the primary access problem on the A30 is to the propeller and rudder shaft stuffing boxes rather than to the engine itself. Hence, one should consider that in positioning the hatch.
>
> Matt
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> 1. Re: Cockpit Access Hatch (Darcy Haldeman -MDH-)
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> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 11:34:53 -0400
> From: Darcy Haldeman -MDH- <darcy.haldeman at maryland.gov>
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> Thank you. I like getting all of the different ideas.
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> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Andrew Johns via Public-List < public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>> A previous owner made a large round deck plate from 1/4 in aluminum
>> that is aprox 30-36 in diameter. It is secured with 8 bolts that
>> thread into a aluminum ring that is bolted to the bottom of the
>> cockpit floor. It is sealed with a foam gasket under the lip.
>>
>> It very nice access to the back of the transmission, shaft seal and
>> cockpit drains. Unfortunately it does seem to leak with heavy rain.
>>
>> See a photo below. (please excuse the dirt, this was prior to the
>> spring clean up and the yard put me near the road this winter...)
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/GrPaypuSCaYi7xu17
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:44 AM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>>> Yes. Constance has a Bomar aluminum deck plate with on opening
>>> diameter
>> of
>>> about 9-1/2?. Others have replaced the round access plate with a
>>> much larger deck hatch that are about 20? x 10?. An example:
>>>
>>> https://www.westmarine.com/buy/boss--cast-aluminum-
>> inspection-hatch--15734544
>>>
>>> Joanthan
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:24 AM Darcy Haldeman -MDH- via Public-List
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>>>> Has anyone replaced the small round access hatch in the cockpit
>>>> with a larger one?
>>>>
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> Darcy,
> I am planning to install a hatch. This will be a hatch mfg. to be absolutely water tight. To help keep it that way I plan to use grating over the hatch supported outside the dimensions of the hatch so feet/weight are not directly bearing down on the hatch. Continued foot action on the hatch will make the caulking seal fail sooner than later.
> Michael #133
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> Thank you. I like getting all of the different ideas.
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Andrew Johns via Public-List < public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>> A previous owner made a large round deck plate from 1/4 in aluminum
>> that is aprox 30-36 in diameter. It is secured with 8 bolts that
>> thread into a aluminum ring that is bolted to the bottom of the
>> cockpit floor. It is sealed with a foam gasket under the lip.
>>
>> It very nice access to the back of the transmission, shaft seal and
>> cockpit drains. Unfortunately it does seem to leak with heavy rain.
>>
>> See a photo below. (please excuse the dirt, this was prior to the
>> spring clean up and the yard put me near the road this winter...)
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/GrPaypuSCaYi7xu17
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:44 AM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. Constance has a Bomar aluminum deck plate with on opening
>>> diameter
>> of
>>> about 9-1/2?. Others have replaced the round access plate with a
>>> much larger deck hatch that are about 20? x 10?. An example:
>>>
>>> https://www.westmarine.com/buy/boss--cast-aluminum-
>> inspection-hatch--15734544
>>>
>>> Joanthan
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:24 AM Darcy Haldeman -MDH- via Public-List
>>> < public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone replaced the small round access hatch in the cockpit
>>>> with a larger one?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Darcy Haldeman
>>>> Administrative Specialist
>>>> Somerset County Health Department
>>>> 443-523-1781
>>>> 410-651-3189 FAX
>>>>
>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
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> From: Zachary Smith <zacharysmith.us at gmail.com>
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> I installed the 15x24 Freeman from Fisheries:
>
> https://www.fisheriessupply.com/freeman-marine-oval-liftout-hatches
>
> Here's some pics of the install. I cut out the hole with a hacksaw blade wrapped in duct tape while swinging on the hook (that saw hangin' there was a fail, couldn't make the radius). Took about 30 mins of cursing, but ain't that bad.
>
> Hole
> http://bronzehorse.space/sona/hole.jpg
>
> Hatch
> http://bronzehorse.space/sona/hatch.jpg
>
> The worst part about this was paying $640 for the hatch.
>
> Zach
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Michael Connolly via Public-List < public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>> Darcy,
>> I am planning to install a hatch. This will be a hatch mfg. to be
>> absolutely water tight. To help keep it that way I plan to use grating
>> over the hatch supported outside the dimensions of the hatch so
>> feet/weight are not directly bearing down on the hatch. Continued foot
>> action on the hatch will make the caulking seal fail sooner than later.
>> Michael #133
>>
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>> From: "Darcy Haldeman -MDH- via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.
>> org>
>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
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>> Cc: "Darcy Haldeman -MDH-" <darcy.haldeman at maryland.gov>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 11:34:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Cockpit Access Hatch
>>
>> Thank you. I like getting all of the different ideas.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Andrew Johns via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>> A previous owner made a large round deck plate from 1/4 in aluminum
>>> that
>> is
>>> aprox 30-36 in diameter. It is secured with 8 bolts that thread into
>>> a aluminum ring that is bolted to the bottom of the cockpit floor.
>>> It is sealed with a foam gasket under the lip.
>>>
>>> It very nice access to the back of the transmission, shaft seal and
>> cockpit
>>> drains. Unfortunately it does seem to leak with heavy rain.
>>>
>>> See a photo below. (please excuse the dirt, this was prior to the
>>> spring clean up and the yard put me near the road this winter...)
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/GrPaypuSCaYi7xu17
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:44 AM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes. Constance has a Bomar aluminum deck plate with on opening
>> diameter
>>> of
>>>> about 9-1/2?. Others have replaced the round access plate with a
>>>> much larger deck hatch that are about 20? x 10?. An example:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.westmarine.com/buy/boss--cast-aluminum-
>>> inspection-hatch--15734544
>>>>
>>>> Joanthan
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:24 AM Darcy Haldeman -MDH- via
>>>> Public-List < public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone replaced the small round access hatch in the cockpit
>>>>> with
>> a
>>>>> larger one?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Darcy Haldeman
>>>>> Administrative Specialist
>>>>> Somerset County Health Department
>>>>> 443-523-1781
>>>>> 410-651-3189 FAX
>>>>>
>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
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>>>>> for
>> the
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>>>>> Act
>>>>> (HIPPA) and other applicable Federal and State law. The
>>>>> authorized recipient of this information is prohibited from
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>> 410-651-3189 FAX
>>
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