[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 3949, Issue 1
charles pleisse
velocharles1 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 29 10:44:42 PST 2019
Most that have created a deck riser for the chainplates have done so to
achieve two goals; to create a riser that will reduce some drainage into
the slot, and to provide a taller channel for more sealant to exist around
the chainplate where it passes through the deck. The caps from schafer or
anywhere else are by no means structural or substantial enough to resist
the forces of a flexing chainplate. The best way to reduce movement is to
have a larger, (thicker) stiffer chainplate. Check out
https://alberg30maintenance.wordpress.com/category/hardware/ on this blog
scroll down to Noveber 26, 2017.
Charles Pleisse
College Park Bicycles
( <http://www.bike123.com>301)864-2211
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> 1. Re: Sealing chainplates (weatherhelm at hotmail.com)
> 2. Re: Sealing chainplates (Gordon Laco)
> 3. Re: Sealing chainplates (Greg Hounsell)
> 4. Re: Sealing chainplates (Greg Hounsell)
> 5. Re: Sealing chainplates (mahseer at kos.net)
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> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 23:41:01 +0300
> From: weatherhelm at hotmail.com
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sealing chainplates
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> Gord - forgive my " iggorance"? ( maybe it is just that I have not had my
> afternoon coffee yet )? but what are you trying to achieve by adding these ?
> Rod
> Thursday, 28 November 2019, 01:58p.m. -05:00 from Jonathan Bresler via
> Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org :
>
> >Depends upon the size of your chainplates. If original or not.
> >
> >These are for 1 1/2" (38mm) x 1/4" (6mm) openings
> >
> https://hardware.schaefermarine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=147_125&products_id=3549
> >
> >These are for 1 1/2" (37mm) x 3/8" (9mm) openings
> >
> https://hardware.schaefermarine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3550
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 1:20 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello friends,
> >
> > I recall a discussion about a Schaeffer fitting which fits over our
> > chainplates were they come up through the deck.
> >
> > Does anyone recall the identification SKU of this fitting?
> >
> > Gordon Laco
> > Surprise 426
> > www.gordonlaco.com
> >
> >
> >
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> >Jonathan M Bresler
> >S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
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> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 16:40:51 -0500
> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: weatherhelm at hotmail.com, Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sealing chainplates
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> Hi Rod -
>
> I want to make fibre reinforced ?mounds? that will augment the existing
> ones through which the chain plates come up through.
>
> I will fix the plates into the tops of the new mounds, and reinforce the
> tops with metal plates (I believe in paying for quality but since I need
> seven of these, I?ll make my own over the winter)
>
> The purpose of the plates is to limit movement of the parts of the plates
> which extend up through the deck, thereby improving the watertight
> integrity of the fittings at the deck. Despite the plates and what they?re
> bolted to being both in good shape, there is enough length above the
> highest bolt that some movement of the chainplates as currently fitted is
> inevitable.
>
> My aim is to reduce that movement? to do that, I need to reinforce where
> they come through the deck.
>
> Gordon Laco
> www.gordonlaco.com
> Surprise 426
>
>
>
> > On Nov 28, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Rod via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Gord - forgive my " iggorance" ( maybe it is just that I have not had
> my afternoon coffee yet ) but what are you trying to achieve by adding
> these ?
> > Rod
> > Thursday, 28 November 2019, 01:58p.m. -05:00 from Jonathan Bresler via
> Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org :
> >
> >> Depends upon the size of your chainplates. If original or not.
> >>
> >> These are for 1 1/2" (38mm) x 1/4" (6mm) openings
> >>
> https://hardware.schaefermarine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=147_125&products_id=3549
> >>
> >> These are for 1 1/2" (37mm) x 3/8" (9mm) openings
> >>
> https://hardware.schaefermarine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3550
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 1:20 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello friends,
> >>
> >> I recall a discussion about a Schaeffer fitting which fits over our
> >> chainplates were they come up through the deck.
> >>
> >> Does anyone recall the identification SKU of this fitting?
> >>
> >> Gordon Laco
> >> Surprise 426
> >> www.gordonlaco.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> --
> >> Jonathan M Bresler
> >> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> >> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 06:11:24 -0500
> From: Greg Hounsell <greg.hounsell at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sealing chainplates
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> Morning
>
> The Schaefer chain plate covers are 84-56 or 84-54
>
> Cheers
> Greg
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 1:20 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello friends,
> >
> > I recall a discussion about a Schaeffer fitting which fits over our
> > chainplates were they come up through the deck.
> >
> > Does anyone recall the identification SKU of this fitting?
> >
> > Gordon Laco
> > Surprise 426
> > www.gordonlaco.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 06:16:01 -0500
> From: Greg Hounsell <greg.hounsell at gmail.com>
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sealing chainplates
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> Something similar is on my list this winter.. making some "hockey pucks" or
> some such to epoxy to the deck.
>
> Saw one example where someone used ice cube trays then cut the to the
> height need leaving nicely rounded edges on them.
>
> Might try that
>
> Greg H
> #592
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 4:41 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rod -
> >
> > I want to make fibre reinforced ?mounds? that will augment the existing
> > ones through which the chain plates come up through.
> >
> > I will fix the plates into the tops of the new mounds, and reinforce the
> > tops with metal plates (I believe in paying for quality but since I need
> > seven of these, I?ll make my own over the winter)
> >
> > The purpose of the plates is to limit movement of the parts of the plates
> > which extend up through the deck, thereby improving the watertight
> > integrity of the fittings at the deck. Despite the plates and what
> they?re
> > bolted to being both in good shape, there is enough length above the
> > highest bolt that some movement of the chainplates as currently fitted is
> > inevitable.
> >
> > My aim is to reduce that movement? to do that, I need to reinforce where
> > they come through the deck.
> >
> > Gordon Laco
> > www.gordonlaco.com
> > Surprise 426
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 28, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Rod via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Gord - forgive my " iggorance" ( maybe it is just that I have not had
> > my afternoon coffee yet ) but what are you trying to achieve by adding
> > these ?
> > > Rod
> > > Thursday, 28 November 2019, 01:58p.m. -05:00 from Jonathan Bresler via
> > Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org :
> > >
> > >> Depends upon the size of your chainplates. If original or not.
> > >>
> > >> These are for 1 1/2" (38mm) x 1/4" (6mm) openings
> > >>
> >
> https://hardware.schaefermarine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=147_125&products_id=3549
> > >>
> > >> These are for 1 1/2" (37mm) x 3/8" (9mm) openings
> > >>
> >
> https://hardware.schaefermarine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3550
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 1:20 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> > >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello friends,
> > >>
> > >> I recall a discussion about a Schaeffer fitting which fits over our
> > >> chainplates were they come up through the deck.
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone recall the identification SKU of this fitting?
> > >>
> > >> Gordon Laco
> > >> Surprise 426
> > >> www.gordonlaco.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> These businesses support your Association:
> > >> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > >> Please support them.
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> > >> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jonathan M Bresler
> > >> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > >> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> These businesses support your Association:
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> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 07:54:05 -0500
> From: "mahseer at kos.net" <mahseer at kos.net>
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sealing chainplates
> Message-ID: <6220A9E6-CC12-4604-8249-A8DC4D8E7DA8 at kos.net>
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> I made my own raised fitting by using cheap dollar store plastic
> containers. I put resin in the bottom to the height I needed then placed
> them on the deck at each location to create the camber needed. After the
> resin set popped them out and trimmed to fit.
>
> John Boor
> Past owner
> MAHSEER #380
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 29, 2019, at 6:25 AM, Greg Hounsell via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?Something similar is on my list this winter.. making some "hockey
> pucks" or
> > some such to epoxy to the deck.
> >
> > Saw one example where someone used ice cube trays then cut the to the
> > height need leaving nicely rounded edges on them.
> >
> > Might try that
> >
> > Greg H
> > #592
> >
> >> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 4:41 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Rod -
> >>
> >> I want to make fibre reinforced ?mounds? that will augment the existing
> >> ones through which the chain plates come up through.
> >>
> >> I will fix the plates into the tops of the new mounds, and reinforce the
> >> tops with metal plates (I believe in paying for quality but since I need
> >> seven of these, I?ll make my own over the winter)
> >>
> >> The purpose of the plates is to limit movement of the parts of the
> plates
> >> which extend up through the deck, thereby improving the watertight
> >> integrity of the fittings at the deck. Despite the plates and what
> they?re
> >> bolted to being both in good shape, there is enough length above the
> >> highest bolt that some movement of the chainplates as currently fitted
> is
> >> inevitable.
> >>
> >> My aim is to reduce that movement? to do that, I need to reinforce where
> >> they come through the deck.
> >>
> >> Gordon Laco
> >> www.gordonlaco.com
> >> Surprise 426
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 28, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Rod via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gord - forgive my " iggorance" ( maybe it is just that I have not had
> >> my afternoon coffee yet ) but what are you trying to achieve by adding
> >> these ?
> >>> Rod
> >>> Thursday, 28 November 2019, 01:58p.m. -05:00 from Jonathan Bresler via
> >> Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org :
> >>>
> >>>> Depends upon the size of your chainplates. If original or not.
> >>>>
> >>>> These are for 1 1/2" (38mm) x 1/4" (6mm) openings
> >>>>
> >>
> https://hardware.schaefermarine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=147_125&products_id=3549
> >>>>
> >>>> These are for 1 1/2" (37mm) x 3/8" (9mm) openings
> >>>>
> >>
> https://hardware.schaefermarine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3550
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 1:20 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello friends,
> >>>>
> >>>> I recall a discussion about a Schaeffer fitting which fits over our
> >>>> chainplates were they come up through the deck.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone recall the identification SKU of this fitting?
> >>>>
> >>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>> Surprise 426
> >>>> www.gordonlaco.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> These businesses support your Association:
> >>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> >>>> Please support them.
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> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jonathan M Bresler
> >>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> >>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> These businesses support your Association:
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