[Public-List] Odd hole in the forward battery area

Wed Apr 29 08:13:11 PDT 2020

When I bought back my wooden Folkboat, after she’d been out of my hands for many years and demolished by hurricanes in the Florida Keys, I started her restoration by removing her garboard planks.  There, down in the deepest part of the bilge where the sternpost met the keel… I found the bunch of keys I lost in 1983.  (along with beer caps, nuts, screws, a screwdriver, a hose clamp, etc etc)

George put her on his Alberg 30 website on a page comparing the Alberg 30 to the Folkboat.  I happened to have two photographs, one of her and one of SURPRISE, taken from almost the same angle and distance...

Gordon Laco
www.gordonlaco.com
#426 Surprise

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> :)  Cant say that I found pliers.
> The first winter when the boat was hauled,
> I did find that the port side cockpit scupper ball valve
> had what appeared to be a square opening through the
> ball in place of the usual round opening. !
> 
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:26 AM Mike Lehman via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
>> Jonathan,
>> 
>> Wow! you found a lot of stuff in the bilge! did you find any pliers? 😁
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 9:51 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan,
>>> 
>>> The following is from Constance #262.  Our boats should not be too
>>> different.  Appears that both were built in 1967.
>>> 
>>> The forward end of the forward battery compartment has a semi-circular
>> hole
>>> that allows the area forward of that and
>>> below the cabin sole to drain into the forward battery compartment.
>>> 
>>> The forward end of the aft battery compartment has a semi-circular hole
>>> that allows the area forward battery compartment
>>> to drain into the aft battery compartment.
>>> 
>>> Both battery compartments are built of sit in a thick "tray" glassed into
>>> the hull.  The tray has a wooden divider between the
>>> forward and aft battery compartments and a wooden divider between the aft
>>> battery compartment and the bilge under the
>>> engine.
>>> 
>>> My notes, from about 14 months ago, indicate that there is a hole in the
>>> bottom surface of the aft battery area.
>>> That hole is 2-1/2" forward of the aft "bulkhead" that separate the aft
>>> battery area from the open bilge under the engine.
>>> Under the battery area, the tray, is open space. From the underside of
>> that
>>> hole in the aft battery tray to the bottom
>>> of the empty space is 14-5/8".
>>> 
>>> The empty space under the forward battery area, measured from a hole in
>> the
>>> bottom 5-1/2" forward of the divider
>>> between the forward and the aft battery areas, is 11-5/8" deep.
>>> 
>>> When I first got Constance, in 2015, I pulled an number of items out of
>> the
>>> bilge, glasses, screwdriver, D cell battery
>>> that had opened up in the wet, nuts, etc.   Some of the items were
>> located
>>> forward of the divider between the bilge
>>> under the engine and the empty space under the aft battery compartment.
>>> The divider does not go all the way to the
>>> bottom, but stops a couple inches short of the bottom, so that I can just
>>> reach down while lying on the cabin sole, and
>>> reach forward under the divider with a few fingers to fish stuff out.
>>> 
>>> Have the idea that someday, I'll glass into the bottom of the boat from
>> the
>>> chain locker to these empty spaces a half section
>>> of PVC pipe to allow the anchor chain to be stored in this empty area.
>>> Have not ripped out the water tank in the v-berth
>>> so this remains a figment of my imagination.  Would need to build a bit
>> of
>>> raised floor in the area between the head and
>>> the hanging locker, as well as, figure out a way to be able to deal with
>>> any chain snagging down in there.  Perhaps removable
>>> panels in the bottom of the battery areas, or Beckson deck plates.  The
>>> bottom of each battery box is more than wide enough
>>> for a deck plate.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:15 PM Daniel Sternglass via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello A30 people,
>>>> 
>>>> By way of installing the rear battery in my (older design) A-30 today,
>> I
>>>> noticed a _small circular ___vertical hole_, roughly 0.5"D __is doing
>> on
>>>> the bottom of the rear battery region__, forward near the battery's
>>>> forward bulkhead_. I never noticed that hole until now. 10 or more
>> years
>>>> ago I coated the battery comportment floors and forward with epoxy
>>>> putty. I must not have have noticed it at that time.
>>>> 
>>>> If this typical? I'd like to understand what would happen if water runs
>>>> enters or exits into the area below the battery floor that it sits on.
>>>> My first instinct is to fill this small hole, but the hole looks
>>>> deliberate. Maybe there is a lower path to the bilge? Currently, my
>>>> float switch is low in the battery compartment. I have seen water in
>>>> there a few times for various reasons. I certainty don't want to
>> disturb
>>>> any iron in the keel, but the boat has been fine for all the time I've
>>>> had it, and as far as I know this has not been a problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> --Dan Sternglass
>>>> Watcher of the Skies, Ithaca, NY
>>>> 
>>>> dans at stmktg.com
>>>> office: +1607-257-3431
>>>> mobile: +1607-592-8012
>>>> 
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>>>> 403 Highgate Road
>>>> Ithaca, NY 14850
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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