[Public-List] Surveying older boats? Determining if they are seaworthy...

[Hans Thomas]

Randy -
I've have my 1962 Pearson Triton surveyed. It was an interesting experience:

"Hmm, blisters. If I didn't see a few on a boat this old I'd be suspicious"

"Encapsulated ballast - don't have to worry about that as much as those fin keel wonders"

In general, the surveyor was more attentive to thru-hull penetrations, especially the shaft, rigging, deck and deck fittings, and the engine installation. I'd be more concerned if I had soft spots on the deck.

Regards 

Hans Thomas
"la mer ne pardonne pas" - James Keelaghan, "Captain Torres"

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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Surveying older boats? Determining if they are seaworthy...

Haha - yup!


Gordon Laco
www.gordonlaco.com
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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 12:21 PM, George Dinwiddie via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> Randy,
> 
> You want a surveyor who remembers the dread polyestermite. Newer resins are not susceptible to this boring pest, and newer surveyors may not be aware of it.
> 
> There's an article about the problem in http://archive.cyca.com.au/media/3437938/offshore-june-1973.pdf in case your surveyor needs an education.
> 
> - George
> 
> On 8/28/20 10:53 AM, Randy Katz via Public-List wrote:
>> Greetings, Fellow A-30 Owners,
>> I've written recently because an interested party is having an
>> insurance person inspect the bottom of my 1967 A-30 next Wednesday to
>> determine if it's insurable. If not, no sale.
>> Someone during the insurance discussion mentioned being sure the inspector
>> has experience with older boats. What about that? What difference, I
>> wonder, would one allow for a boat being older?
>> I know of two methods of hull assessment. One is tapping the entire surface
>> with a plastic hammer to listen to the sound and being sure there are no
>> "soft spots." The other method could be the dreaded moisture meter, which
>> seems to offer wildly varying outcomes depending on the type of instrument
>> and experience of the user.
>> While the boat had around 10 blisters 20 years ago, since ground out and
>> epoxied, I know the hull to be sound and the survey back then confirmed it.
>> I guess no one knows this for sure, but what will be the ultimate fate of
>> 50+ yr. old fiberglass? Does it eventually develop soft spots & at some
>> point fail? Does that make it wise to check each year in order to avoid
>> surprises? Or does the stuff simply last and last and last?
>> Alberg owners, who possess some of the oldest fiberglass hulls around, are
>> among the pioneers with regard to this experience. I suppose some of us
>> will be around to witness and learn from the final outcome.
>> Thanks,
>> Randy Katz
>> #249 Simple Gifts
>> Bellingham/Seattle
> 
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