[Public-List] sail arch

David Fay davidfay999 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 31 07:22:09 PDT 2020


Don't underestimate the pole solution. I have a single pole, made by Custom Marine Products (https://www.custommarineproducts.com/solar-panel-mounting-kits.html <https://www.custommarineproducts.com/solar-panel-mounting-kits.html>), with a 140 watt panel made by Kyocera. It is mounted on the starboard aft quarter and is almost never shaded. It supplies all the solar electricity I need. But if I needed more, I could mount a second pole on the port side.

By the way, my pole-mounted solar panel survived a 70 mph squall (as measured by NWS radar) with no damage.

David
Blue Teal #284

> On Jul 31, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Andrew Johns via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> For us the pole mounted solutions would not be enough to keep up with
> refrigeration and moderate electrical demands.
> 
> We currently have (2) 100W  Renogy flexible panels lashed on top of the
> bimini hooked to Victron MPPT charge controllers.   This works out well for
> us right now,  on a sunny day the batteries are floating by 3 PM.
> 
> In the next month or two we plan on mounting (2)  200W fixed panels onto a
> "arch" behind the backstay using a set of drawer slides to allow the second
> panel to slide over the first when not in use.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 6:29 PM Marcelo D. Gentinetta via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
>> I actually got back from working on the solar project and made significant
>> progress. I will have to take some pictures and send them to George to
>> upload.
>> Some of the highlights:
>> 
>> 1. I purchased a Renogy monocrystalline 50 W panel from Renogy together
>> with 20 ft of their 12g solar wire with the MC4 fittings already installed
>> on the ends.
>> 2. The panel is mounted on the stern rail on center so that I can pivot it
>> at least in one direction. I am lucky in that the stern of the boat points
>> directly south when in her slip.
>> 3. I bought  a pair of Magma BBQ mounts to mount the panel to the stern
>> rail. These are very secure and have a pivoting mechanism which allows you
>> to mount the panel to the curved stern rail. They are adjustable so I
>> loosen the handle and can pivot the panel.
>> The mounts are item T10-580 from Magma and are called Dual horizontal rail
>> mounts.
>> 4. The wires are run through the deck using a Blue Sea Systems Cable Clam
>> after isolating the screw holes from the core with epoxy.
>> 5. From the stern lazarette, the wires run along the port locker to the
>> solar controller mounted on the bulkhead between the locker and the main
>> cabin on the locker side. I decided to add a toggle switch on the positive
>> lead coming from the panel to have the option of disconnecting the panel if
>> I need to service the system.
>> 6. The controller is a Morningstar SunSaver Duo. It allows each of my two
>> batteries to be charged independently with the option to select each to
>> receive 50% of the charge or the start battery to receive 10% and the house
>> to receive 90%.
>> 7. I purchased the optional remote temperature sensor because the temp at
>> the batteries will differ from where the controller is located. This is
>> just an extra lead going from the battery compartment under the floor board
>> to the controller. You can also purchase a remote display module that will
>> give you a visual on the state of the batteries and charge. I may do this
>> in the future.
>> 8. From the controller, there are two 12g duplex wires going to each
>> battery. You must add a fuse on the positive lead of each wire within 12
>> inches of the battery terminal. I used 5 amp fuses since the panel’s max
>> output is around 3amps.
>> One difficulty I encountered was running the duplex wires from the
>> controller to the battery compartment. For this, I made a 1inch hole
>> through the bottom of the engine liner at the aft end of the engine by the
>> A4 transmission box and then ran the wires underneath the engine liner to
>> the battery compartment. I used flexible plastic conduit around the wires
>> to keep them protected from chafing.
>> 
>> And that’s it in a nutshell.
>> 
>> Marcelo
>>> On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Ryan Young via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All great info - the solar on poles look quite clean and seem to work
>> out
>>>> well on Dolce.  I'd be interested in your pulpit solution as well,
>> Marcel,
>>>> do share the end result, I'd love to see it and hear how it's working
>> out
>>>> for you
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:07:26 -0500
>>>> From: "Marcelo D. Gentinetta" <vanguard64 at cox.net>
>>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>>       <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] sail arch
>>>> Message-ID: <371BE613-11EE-4861-931D-B74AA0509B89 at cox.net>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>>>> 
>>>> Ryan,
>>>> Congratulations on acquiring 555 !  I am in New Orleans and actually met
>>>> George Copeland, the fellow that brought 555 down from N.C back in
>> 2008. I
>>>> purchased the boat he was selling at the time, a Pearson Ariel that was
>> in
>>>> a slip close to 555 which he showed off after an extensive refit. I
>> think
>>>> your boat?s name then was Atalanta.
>>>> I sold the Ariel before purchasing my A30 in 2017.
>>>> I am actually in the process of installing a 50w solar panel on the
>> stern
>>>> pulpit for keeping the batteries charged in the slip and a little extra
>>>> when sailing. As was mentioned  by Jonathan, James Baldwin has great
>>>> details on installing solar panels on tracking poles.
>>>> Welcome!
>>>> Marcelo Gentinetta
>>>> #441  Alegria
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Ryan via Public-List <
>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ryan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This pole-with-solar option was done on Dolce with two poles on the
>> aft.
>>>>> You can see a lot of videos of Dolce on her recent pacific voyages on
>> the
>>>>> youtube channel Routes of Change.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:24 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ryan,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Another option for solar is a pole with a single panel centered on the
>>>> top
>>>>>> of the pole with a ball joint.
>>>>>> The ball joint allows the panel to be angled to catch the most sun,
>>>> letting
>>>>>> you reposition (re-angle)
>>>>>> the panel every couple hours.   You might mount a pole on each side
>> aft.
>>>>>> Lora, Jason Jernigan's boat,
>>>>>> redone by James Baldwin (
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/atomvoyager/videos)
>>>>>> has this option.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Look forward to hearing about how you and the boat are doing over
>> time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:04 PM Ryan Young <ryoung at spiderhop.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for the warm welcomes Jonathan and Gordon!  Gordon - I'd like
>> to
>>>>>>> throw a few rigid solar panels up, and thought an arch would be the
>>>> best
>>>>>>> way to accommodate so as they're out of the way.  I don't think it
>> will
>>>>>>> negatively affect the aesthetics, but I'm still a bit on the fence on
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> claim.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That looks like a good resource, Jonathan, I appreciate you pointing
>> me
>>>>>>> there.  I do indeed plan on staying in Seabrook (well, I'm
>> technically
>>>>>>> moving it to Kemah, TX - but only about 1.5 Kilometers away, as the
>>>> crow
>>>>>>> flies.  I likely will change the name in the near future and will let
>>>> you
>>>>>>> know if and when that happens, thanks again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -ry
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:23 PM Jonathan Bresler <
>>>> 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ryan,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Welcome aboard!
>>>>>>>> Congratulations on getting #555.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Janus is an Alberg 30 with an arch.
>>>>>>>> Some information and photos at http://sailingseafari.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Will you be keeping the boat in Seabrook Texas?
>>>>>>>> Do you plan on changing the name?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:07 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
>>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Welcome aboard?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Why would you want to put an arch on an Alberg 30?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gordon Laco
>>>>>>>>> www.gordonlaco.com
>>>>>>>>> 426 Surprise
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Ryan Young via Public-List <
>>>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> :) I should have mentioned I'm an excited new A30 owner!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:21 PM Ryan <rnkiefer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, I've sold my boat everyone! 555 now belongs to Ryan
>>>>>> Young.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all your help and advice!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:52 PM Ryan Young via Public-List <
>>>>>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello folks!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was curious if anyone has gone down the route of installing a
>>>>>>>>> stern sail
>>>>>>>>>>>> arch?  I'm not sure of the narrowness has a big impact.  Do
>> folks
>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>> custom fabricated generally?  Does anyone have any resources for
>>>>>>>>> kits?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> hoping to mount a few rigid solar panels and I think this is the
>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>>>> route
>>>>>>>>>>>> but open to what other folks have done.  Ideally I'd like to get
>>>>>> 300
>>>>>>>>> Watts
>>>>>>>>>>>> total at the least.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -ry
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> -Ryan Kiefer
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>>>>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>>>>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:04:48 -0400
>>>> From: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>>       <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] sail arch
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>       <CAHEe8Tstjnvuzvw5o0iN=
>>>> d4Vrt6Xy--yPOQQEvY+UJ_A5Pvf7Q at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>> 
>>>> Marcelo,
>>>> 
>>>> Please let us know how the install of th 50W panel on the stern pulpit
>>>> goes.
>>>> Have often allowed my mind to wander a bit on that very idea.
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:10 AM Marcelo D. Gentinetta via Public-List <
>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ryan,
>>>>> Congratulations on acquiring 555 !  I am in New Orleans and actually
>> met
>>>>> George Copeland, the fellow that brought 555 down from N.C back in
>> 2008.
>>>> I
>>>>> purchased the boat he was selling at the time, a Pearson Ariel that was
>>>> in
>>>>> a slip close to 555 which he showed off after an extensive refit. I
>> think
>>>>> your boat?s name then was Atalanta.
>>>>> I sold the Ariel before purchasing my A30 in 2017.
>>>>> I am actually in the process of installing a 50w solar panel on the
>> stern
>>>>> pulpit for keeping the batteries charged in the slip and a little extra
>>>>> when sailing. As was mentioned  by Jonathan, James Baldwin has great
>>>>> details on installing solar panels on tracking poles.
>>>>> Welcome!
>>>>> Marcelo Gentinetta
>>>>> #441  Alegria
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Ryan via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ryan,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This pole-with-solar option was done on Dolce with two poles on the
>>>> aft.
>>>>>> You can see a lot of videos of Dolce on her recent pacific voyages on
>>>> the
>>>>>> youtube channel Routes of Change.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:24 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ryan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Another option for solar is a pole with a single panel centered on
>> the
>>>>> top
>>>>>>> of the pole with a ball joint.
>>>>>>> The ball joint allows the panel to be angled to catch the most sun,
>>>>> letting
>>>>>>> you reposition (re-angle)
>>>>>>> the panel every couple hours.   You might mount a pole on each side
>>>> aft.
>>>>>>> Lora, Jason Jernigan's boat,
>>>>>>> redone by James Baldwin (
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/atomvoyager/videos)
>>>>>>> has this option.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Look forward to hearing about how you and the boat are doing over
>>>> time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:04 PM Ryan Young <ryoung at spiderhop.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the warm welcomes Jonathan and Gordon!  Gordon - I'd like
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> throw a few rigid solar panels up, and thought an arch would be the
>>>>> best
>>>>>>>> way to accommodate so as they're out of the way.  I don't think it
>>>> will
>>>>>>>> negatively affect the aesthetics, but I'm still a bit on the fence
>> on
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> claim.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That looks like a good resource, Jonathan, I appreciate you pointing
>>>> me
>>>>>>>> there.  I do indeed plan on staying in Seabrook (well, I'm
>>>> technically
>>>>>>>> moving it to Kemah, TX - but only about 1.5 Kilometers away, as the
>>>>> crow
>>>>>>>> flies.  I likely will change the name in the near future and will
>> let
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> know if and when that happens, thanks again.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -ry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:23 PM Jonathan Bresler <
>>>>> 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ryan,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Welcome aboard!
>>>>>>>>> Congratulations on getting #555.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Janus is an Alberg 30 with an arch.
>>>>>>>>> Some information and photos at http://sailingseafari.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Will you be keeping the boat in Seabrook Texas?
>>>>>>>>> Do you plan on changing the name?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:07 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
>>>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Welcome aboard?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Why would you want to put an arch on an Alberg 30?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gordon Laco
>>>>>>>>>> www.gordonlaco.com
>>>>>>>>>> 426 Surprise
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Ryan Young via Public-List <
>>>>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> :) I should have mentioned I'm an excited new A30 owner!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:21 PM Ryan <rnkiefer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, I've sold my boat everyone! 555 now belongs to Ryan
>>>>>>> Young.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all your help and advice!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:52 PM Ryan Young via Public-List <
>>>>>>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello folks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was curious if anyone has gone down the route of installing a
>>>>>>>>>> stern sail
>>>>>>>>>>>>> arch?  I'm not sure of the narrowness has a big impact.  Do
>>>> folks
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> custom fabricated generally?  Does anyone have any resources
>> for
>>>>>>>>>> kits?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hoping to mount a few rigid solar panels and I think this is
>> the
>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>>>>> route
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but open to what other folks have done.  Ideally I'd like to
>> get
>>>>>>> 300
>>>>>>>>>> Watts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> total at the least.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -ry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please support them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Public-List mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Ryan Kiefer
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>>>>>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>>>>>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>>>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>>>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:23:54 -0400
>>>> From: John Maliszewski <vzjrmalis at gmail.com>
>>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org, 262alberg30 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: [Public-List] Gooseneck track repair and replacement
>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>> CA+JuSdbSR3goG4AhhSKTzpny0HZFOvH_Km+2OkaqQnjdTd4Cuw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan, you should be happy that this particular problem on your boat
>>>> (#262) had been solved a long time ago. The piece of teak or whatever
>>>> Whitby used as the track spacer had been replaced with a piece of naval
>>>> brass machined to size. This peculiar Whitby construction formed a less
>>>> expensive "T" and served its purpose for many years. In this case, after
>>>> creating a brass spacer machined to size with clearance holes, I simply
>>>> shifted the hole pattern by half of the pitch of the existing holes on
>> the
>>>> mast, and drilled and tapped a new set of mounting holes. The mast cross
>>>> section thickness of the flat section of the mast is .167 inches and the
>>>> inside flat measures 1.700 inches. ( I will ask George D. to publish a
>>>> dimensioned cross section drawing of the mast on the A30 website.)
>>>> Given 1/4 -20 thread screws that should give a full three
>>>> treads engagement in the flat portion of the mast. Introducing a new
>> backup
>>>> plate is more trouble than it is worth.
>>>> The original problem is that the wooden spacer deteriorates over time
>> and
>>>> allows the rail portion of the "T" to move and even perhaps become
>>>> completely loose. Loose state of this engagement point reduces
>> considerably
>>>> the strength of the gooseneck assembly mounting, especially during the
>>>> accidental jibes, and leads to broken screws or compromised treads in
>> the
>>>> mounting holes.
>>>> 
>>>> John Maliszewski
>>>> 
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