[Public-List] sail arch
Christian Douglas
a30kittiwake at gmail.com
Fri Jul 31 14:02:00 PDT 2020
Clay,
I’d love to see the setup as well.
Christian
Kittiwake #76
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 16:25 Ryan Young via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> Clay,
>
> I would be very eager to see some additional pictures of Seeing Deep's arch
> setup! Very much appreciated, I'm glad you mentioned the bimini bit, I was
> just thinking it may be prudent to do the solar setup first and see how
> much shade that provides before looking into any sort of proper bimini!
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 2:20 PM Clay Pass <clay.q.pass at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have #449 (formerly "Janus", now "Seeing Deep") that was referred to in
> > the email chain. Let me know if you want some pictures of the "arch"
> > behind the backstay. I like the setup a lot as it provides a nice bimini
> > for shade as well as a place for the solar panel that is out of the way.
> >
> > Clay Pass
> > #449 Seeing Deep
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 4:45 PM Ryan Young via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> > All great info - the solar on poles look quite clean and seem to work
> >> out
> >> > well on Dolce. I'd be interested in your pulpit solution as well,
> >> Marcel,
> >> > do share the end result, I'd love to see it and hear how it's working
> >> out
> >> > for you
> >> >
> >> > Message: 1
> >> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:07:26 -0500
> >> > From: "Marcelo D. Gentinetta" <vanguard64 at cox.net>
> >> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] sail arch
> >> > Message-ID: <371BE613-11EE-4861-931D-B74AA0509B89 at cox.net>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >> >
> >> > Ryan,
> >> > Congratulations on acquiring 555 ! I am in New Orleans and actually
> met
> >> > George Copeland, the fellow that brought 555 down from N.C back in
> >> 2008. I
> >> > purchased the boat he was selling at the time, a Pearson Ariel that
> was
> >> in
> >> > a slip close to 555 which he showed off after an extensive refit. I
> >> think
> >> > your boat?s name then was Atalanta.
> >> > I sold the Ariel before purchasing my A30 in 2017.
> >> > I am actually in the process of installing a 50w solar panel on the
> >> stern
> >> > pulpit for keeping the batteries charged in the slip and a little
> extra
> >> > when sailing. As was mentioned by Jonathan, James Baldwin has great
> >> > details on installing solar panels on tracking poles.
> >> > Welcome!
> >> > Marcelo Gentinetta
> >> > #441 Alegria
> >> >
> >> > > On Jul 29, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Ryan via Public-List <
> >> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Ryan,
> >> > >
> >> > > This pole-with-solar option was done on Dolce with two poles on the
> >> aft.
> >> > > You can see a lot of videos of Dolce on her recent pacific voyages
> on
> >> the
> >> > > youtube channel Routes of Change.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:24 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> >> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Ryan,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Another option for solar is a pole with a single panel centered on
> >> the
> >> > top
> >> > >> of the pole with a ball joint.
> >> > >> The ball joint allows the panel to be angled to catch the most sun,
> >> > letting
> >> > >> you reposition (re-angle)
> >> > >> the panel every couple hours. You might mount a pole on each side
> >> aft.
> >> > >> Lora, Jason Jernigan's boat,
> >> > >> redone by James Baldwin (
> >> > https://www.youtube.com/user/atomvoyager/videos)
> >> > >> has this option.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Look forward to hearing about how you and the boat are doing over
> >> time.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Jonathan
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:04 PM Ryan Young <ryoung at spiderhop.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Thanks for the warm welcomes Jonathan and Gordon! Gordon - I'd
> >> like to
> >> > >>> throw a few rigid solar panels up, and thought an arch would be
> the
> >> > best
> >> > >>> way to accommodate so as they're out of the way. I don't think it
> >> will
> >> > >>> negatively affect the aesthetics, but I'm still a bit on the fence
> >> on
> >> > >> that
> >> > >>> claim.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> That looks like a good resource, Jonathan, I appreciate you
> >> pointing me
> >> > >>> there. I do indeed plan on staying in Seabrook (well, I'm
> >> technically
> >> > >>> moving it to Kemah, TX - but only about 1.5 Kilometers away, as
> the
> >> > crow
> >> > >>> flies. I likely will change the name in the near future and will
> >> let
> >> > you
> >> > >>> know if and when that happens, thanks again.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> -ry
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:23 PM Jonathan Bresler <
> >> > 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> Ryan,
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Welcome aboard!
> >> > >>>> Congratulations on getting #555.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Janus is an Alberg 30 with an arch.
> >> > >>>> Some information and photos at
> http://sailingseafari.blogspot.com/
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Will you be keeping the boat in Seabrook Texas?
> >> > >>>> Do you plan on changing the name?
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Best wishes,
> >> > >>>> Jonathan
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:07 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >> > >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> Welcome aboard?
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Why would you want to put an arch on an Alberg 30?
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Gordon Laco
> >> > >>>>> www.gordonlaco.com
> >> > >>>>> 426 Surprise
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Ryan Young via Public-List <
> >> > >>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> :) I should have mentioned I'm an excited new A30 owner!
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:21 PM Ryan <rnkiefer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> By the way, I've sold my boat everyone! 555 now belongs to
> Ryan
> >> > >> Young.
> >> > >>>>>>> Thanks for all your help and advice!
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:52 PM Ryan Young via Public-List <
> >> > >>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> Hello folks!
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> I was curious if anyone has gone down the route of
> installing a
> >> > >>>>> stern sail
> >> > >>>>>>>> arch? I'm not sure of the narrowness has a big impact. Do
> >> folks
> >> > >> get
> >> > >>>>>>>> these
> >> > >>>>>>>> custom fabricated generally? Does anyone have any resources
> >> for
> >> > >>>>> kits?
> >> > >>>>>>>> I'm
> >> > >>>>>>>> hoping to mount a few rigid solar panels and I think this is
> >> the
> >> > >> best
> >> > >>>>>>>> route
> >> > >>>>>>>> but open to what other folks have done. Ideally I'd like to
> >> get
> >> > >> 300
> >> > >>>>> Watts
> >> > >>>>>>>> total at the least.
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> -ry
> >> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >> > >>>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
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> >> > >>>>>>>> Please support them.
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> >> > >>>>>>>>
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> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>> -Ryan Kiefer
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >> > >>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
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> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> --
> >> > >>>> Jonathan M Bresler
> >> > >>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> >> > >>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Jonathan M Bresler
> >> > >> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> >> > >> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> >> > >> _______________________________________________
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> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > -Ryan Kiefer
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> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 2
> >> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:04:48 -0400
> >> > From: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
> >> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] sail arch
> >> > Message-ID:
> >> > <CAHEe8Tstjnvuzvw5o0iN=
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> >> >
> >> > Marcelo,
> >> >
> >> > Please let us know how the install of th 50W panel on the stern pulpit
> >> > goes.
> >> > Have often allowed my mind to wander a bit on that very idea.
> >> >
> >> > Jonathan
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:10 AM Marcelo D. Gentinetta via
> Public-List <
> >> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Ryan,
> >> > > Congratulations on acquiring 555 ! I am in New Orleans and actually
> >> met
> >> > > George Copeland, the fellow that brought 555 down from N.C back in
> >> 2008.
> >> > I
> >> > > purchased the boat he was selling at the time, a Pearson Ariel that
> >> was
> >> > in
> >> > > a slip close to 555 which he showed off after an extensive refit. I
> >> think
> >> > > your boat?s name then was Atalanta.
> >> > > I sold the Ariel before purchasing my A30 in 2017.
> >> > > I am actually in the process of installing a 50w solar panel on the
> >> stern
> >> > > pulpit for keeping the batteries charged in the slip and a little
> >> extra
> >> > > when sailing. As was mentioned by Jonathan, James Baldwin has great
> >> > > details on installing solar panels on tracking poles.
> >> > > Welcome!
> >> > > Marcelo Gentinetta
> >> > > #441 Alegria
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Jul 29, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Ryan via Public-List <
> >> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ryan,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This pole-with-solar option was done on Dolce with two poles on
> the
> >> > aft.
> >> > > > You can see a lot of videos of Dolce on her recent pacific voyages
> >> on
> >> > the
> >> > > > youtube channel Routes of Change.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:24 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> >> > > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Ryan,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Another option for solar is a pole with a single panel centered
> on
> >> the
> >> > > top
> >> > > >> of the pole with a ball joint.
> >> > > >> The ball joint allows the panel to be angled to catch the most
> sun,
> >> > > letting
> >> > > >> you reposition (re-angle)
> >> > > >> the panel every couple hours. You might mount a pole on each
> side
> >> > aft.
> >> > > >> Lora, Jason Jernigan's boat,
> >> > > >> redone by James Baldwin (
> >> > > https://www.youtube.com/user/atomvoyager/videos)
> >> > > >> has this option.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Look forward to hearing about how you and the boat are doing over
> >> > time.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Jonathan
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:04 PM Ryan Young <ryoung at spiderhop.net
> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> Thanks for the warm welcomes Jonathan and Gordon! Gordon - I'd
> >> like
> >> > to
> >> > > >>> throw a few rigid solar panels up, and thought an arch would be
> >> the
> >> > > best
> >> > > >>> way to accommodate so as they're out of the way. I don't think
> it
> >> > will
> >> > > >>> negatively affect the aesthetics, but I'm still a bit on the
> >> fence on
> >> > > >> that
> >> > > >>> claim.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> That looks like a good resource, Jonathan, I appreciate you
> >> pointing
> >> > me
> >> > > >>> there. I do indeed plan on staying in Seabrook (well, I'm
> >> > technically
> >> > > >>> moving it to Kemah, TX - but only about 1.5 Kilometers away, as
> >> the
> >> > > crow
> >> > > >>> flies. I likely will change the name in the near future and
> will
> >> let
> >> > > you
> >> > > >>> know if and when that happens, thanks again.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> -ry
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:23 PM Jonathan Bresler <
> >> > > 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
> >> > > >>> wrote:
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>> Ryan,
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> Welcome aboard!
> >> > > >>>> Congratulations on getting #555.
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> Janus is an Alberg 30 with an arch.
> >> > > >>>> Some information and photos at
> >> http://sailingseafari.blogspot.com/
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> Will you be keeping the boat in Seabrook Texas?
> >> > > >>>> Do you plan on changing the name?
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> Best wishes,
> >> > > >>>> Jonathan
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:07 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >> > > >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Welcome aboard?
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Why would you want to put an arch on an Alberg 30?
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Gordon Laco
> >> > > >>>>> www.gordonlaco.com
> >> > > >>>>> 426 Surprise
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Ryan Young via Public-List <
> >> > > >>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> :) I should have mentioned I'm an excited new A30 owner!
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:21 PM Ryan <rnkiefer at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>> By the way, I've sold my boat everyone! 555 now belongs to
> >> Ryan
> >> > > >> Young.
> >> > > >>>>>>> Thanks for all your help and advice!
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:52 PM Ryan Young via Public-List <
> >> > > >>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> Hello folks!
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> I was curious if anyone has gone down the route of
> >> installing a
> >> > > >>>>> stern sail
> >> > > >>>>>>>> arch? I'm not sure of the narrowness has a big impact. Do
> >> > folks
> >> > > >> get
> >> > > >>>>>>>> these
> >> > > >>>>>>>> custom fabricated generally? Does anyone have any
> resources
> >> for
> >> > > >>>>> kits?
> >> > > >>>>>>>> I'm
> >> > > >>>>>>>> hoping to mount a few rigid solar panels and I think this
> is
> >> the
> >> > > >> best
> >> > > >>>>>>>> route
> >> > > >>>>>>>> but open to what other folks have done. Ideally I'd like
> to
> >> get
> >> > > >> 300
> >> > > >>>>> Watts
> >> > > >>>>>>>> total at the least.
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>> -ry
> >> > > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >> > > >>>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> >> > > >>>>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> >> > > >>>>>>>> Please support them.
> >> > > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >> > > >>>>>>>> Public-List mailing list
> >> > > >>>>>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> >> > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>> --
> >> > > >>>>>>> -Ryan Kiefer
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >> > > >>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> >> > > >>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> >> > > >>>>>> Please support them.
> >> > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >> > > >>>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> >> > > >>>>>>
> >> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >> > > >>>>> These businesses support your Association:
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> >> > > >>>>> Please support them.
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> >> > > >>>>>
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> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> --
> >> > > >>>> Jonathan M Bresler
> >> > > >>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> >> > > >>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> --
> >> > > >> Jonathan M Bresler
> >> > > >> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> >> > > >> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> >> > > >> _______________________________________________
> >> > > >> These businesses support your Association:
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> >> > > >> Please support them.
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> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > -Ryan Kiefer
> >> > > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > > These businesses support your Association:
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Jonathan M Bresler
> >> > S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> >> > Annapolis/Eastport MD
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 3
> >> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:23:54 -0400
> >> > From: John Maliszewski <vzjrmalis at gmail.com>
> >> > To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org, 262alberg30 at gmail.com
> >> > Subject: [Public-List] Gooseneck track repair and replacement
> >> > Message-ID:
> >> > <
> >> > CA+JuSdbSR3goG4AhhSKTzpny0HZFOvH_Km+2OkaqQnjdTd4Cuw at mail.gmail.com>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >> >
> >> > Jonathan, you should be happy that this particular problem on your
> boat
> >> > (#262) had been solved a long time ago. The piece of teak or whatever
> >> > Whitby used as the track spacer had been replaced with a piece of
> naval
> >> > brass machined to size. This peculiar Whitby construction formed a
> less
> >> > expensive "T" and served its purpose for many years. In this case,
> after
> >> > creating a brass spacer machined to size with clearance holes, I
> simply
> >> > shifted the hole pattern by half of the pitch of the existing holes on
> >> the
> >> > mast, and drilled and tapped a new set of mounting holes. The mast
> cross
> >> > section thickness of the flat section of the mast is .167 inches and
> the
> >> > inside flat measures 1.700 inches. ( I will ask George D. to publish a
> >> > dimensioned cross section drawing of the mast on the A30 website.)
> >> > Given 1/4 -20 thread screws that should give a full three
> >> > treads engagement in the flat portion of the mast. Introducing a new
> >> backup
> >> > plate is more trouble than it is worth.
> >> > The original problem is that the wooden spacer deteriorates over time
> >> and
> >> > allows the rail portion of the "T" to move and even perhaps become
> >> > completely loose. Loose state of this engagement point reduces
> >> considerably
> >> > the strength of the gooseneck assembly mounting, especially during the
> >> > accidental jibes, and leads to broken screws or compromised treads in
> >> the
> >> > mounting holes.
> >> >
> >> > John Maliszewski
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
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