[Public-List] sail arch
Andrew Johns
johnsab9 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 31 10:50:15 PDT 2020
Ryan,
The Atlantic tower kits along with the pole setups while very nice are out
of our budget.
I have not assembled it yet as i'm still in the process of
collecting parts. What I have so far is an 8020 extruded aluminum frame to
mount the panels and 1in SS tubing to mount the frame about 5.5 feet above
the lazarette. I'll link to some photos when I get the project completed.
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 12:12 PM Ryan Young via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> Andrew - Did you have something custom fabricated? I am looking at this as
> a possible solution:
> https://www.atlantictowers.com/images/_fish_arch/WEBFIS_2_lg.jpg - do you
> have any photos that you'd be willing to share of your setup?
>
> I'm not ruling out the pole solution, David's comment regarding their
> durability is quite good to hear.
>
>
> >
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:13:12 -0400
> > From: Andrew Johns <johnsab9 at gmail.com>
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] sail arch
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> > CAM5xwU7edhb+77Q9HaxW2LhQ13xoLDr9nsv_a54pELV6uHtgVA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > For us the pole mounted solutions would not be enough to keep up with
> > refrigeration and moderate electrical demands.
> >
> > We currently have (2) 100W Renogy flexible panels lashed on top of the
> > bimini hooked to Victron MPPT charge controllers. This works out well
> for
> > us right now, on a sunny day the batteries are floating by 3 PM.
> >
> > In the next month or two we plan on mounting (2) 200W fixed panels onto
> a
> > "arch" behind the backstay using a set of drawer slides to allow the
> second
> > panel to slide over the first when not in use.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 6:29 PM Marcelo D. Gentinetta via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I actually got back from working on the solar project and made
> > significant
> > > progress. I will have to take some pictures and send them to George to
> > > upload.
> > > Some of the highlights:
> > >
> > > 1. I purchased a Renogy monocrystalline 50 W panel from Renogy together
> > > with 20 ft of their 12g solar wire with the MC4 fittings already
> > installed
> > > on the ends.
> > > 2. The panel is mounted on the stern rail on center so that I can pivot
> > it
> > > at least in one direction. I am lucky in that the stern of the boat
> > points
> > > directly south when in her slip.
> > > 3. I bought a pair of Magma BBQ mounts to mount the panel to the stern
> > > rail. These are very secure and have a pivoting mechanism which allows
> > you
> > > to mount the panel to the curved stern rail. They are adjustable so I
> > > loosen the handle and can pivot the panel.
> > > The mounts are item T10-580 from Magma and are called Dual horizontal
> > rail
> > > mounts.
> > > 4. The wires are run through the deck using a Blue Sea Systems Cable
> Clam
> > > after isolating the screw holes from the core with epoxy.
> > > 5. From the stern lazarette, the wires run along the port locker to the
> > > solar controller mounted on the bulkhead between the locker and the
> main
> > > cabin on the locker side. I decided to add a toggle switch on the
> > positive
> > > lead coming from the panel to have the option of disconnecting the
> panel
> > if
> > > I need to service the system.
> > > 6. The controller is a Morningstar SunSaver Duo. It allows each of my
> two
> > > batteries to be charged independently with the option to select each to
> > > receive 50% of the charge or the start battery to receive 10% and the
> > house
> > > to receive 90%.
> > > 7. I purchased the optional remote temperature sensor because the temp
> at
> > > the batteries will differ from where the controller is located. This is
> > > just an extra lead going from the battery compartment under the floor
> > board
> > > to the controller. You can also purchase a remote display module that
> > will
> > > give you a visual on the state of the batteries and charge. I may do
> this
> > > in the future.
> > > 8. From the controller, there are two 12g duplex wires going to each
> > > battery. You must add a fuse on the positive lead of each wire within
> 12
> > > inches of the battery terminal. I used 5 amp fuses since the panel?s
> max
> > > output is around 3amps.
> > > One difficulty I encountered was running the duplex wires from the
> > > controller to the battery compartment. For this, I made a 1inch hole
> > > through the bottom of the engine liner at the aft end of the engine by
> > the
> > > A4 transmission box and then ran the wires underneath the engine liner
> to
> > > the battery compartment. I used flexible plastic conduit around the
> wires
> > > to keep them protected from chafing.
> > >
> > > And that?s it in a nutshell.
> > >
> > > Marcelo
> > > > On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Ryan Young via Public-List <
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> All great info - the solar on poles look quite clean and seem to
> work
> > > out
> > > >> well on Dolce. I'd be interested in your pulpit solution as well,
> > > Marcel,
> > > >> do share the end result, I'd love to see it and hear how it's
> working
> > > out
> > > >> for you
> > > >>
> > > >> Message: 1
> > > >> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:07:26 -0500
> > > >> From: "Marcelo D. Gentinetta" <vanguard64 at cox.net>
> > > >> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > > >> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] sail arch
> > > >> Message-ID: <371BE613-11EE-4861-931D-B74AA0509B89 at cox.net>
> > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > >>
> > > >> Ryan,
> > > >> Congratulations on acquiring 555 ! I am in New Orleans and actually
> > met
> > > >> George Copeland, the fellow that brought 555 down from N.C back in
> > > 2008. I
> > > >> purchased the boat he was selling at the time, a Pearson Ariel that
> > was
> > > in
> > > >> a slip close to 555 which he showed off after an extensive refit. I
> > > think
> > > >> your boat?s name then was Atalanta.
> > > >> I sold the Ariel before purchasing my A30 in 2017.
> > > >> I am actually in the process of installing a 50w solar panel on the
> > > stern
> > > >> pulpit for keeping the batteries charged in the slip and a little
> > extra
> > > >> when sailing. As was mentioned by Jonathan, James Baldwin has great
> > > >> details on installing solar panels on tracking poles.
> > > >> Welcome!
> > > >> Marcelo Gentinetta
> > > >> #441 Alegria
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Ryan via Public-List <
> > > >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ryan,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This pole-with-solar option was done on Dolce with two poles on the
> > > aft.
> > > >>> You can see a lot of videos of Dolce on her recent pacific voyages
> on
> > > the
> > > >>> youtube channel Routes of Change.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:24 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> > > >>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Ryan,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Another option for solar is a pole with a single panel centered on
> > the
> > > >> top
> > > >>>> of the pole with a ball joint.
> > > >>>> The ball joint allows the panel to be angled to catch the most
> sun,
> > > >> letting
> > > >>>> you reposition (re-angle)
> > > >>>> the panel every couple hours. You might mount a pole on each
> side
> > > aft.
> > > >>>> Lora, Jason Jernigan's boat,
> > > >>>> redone by James Baldwin (
> > > >> https://www.youtube.com/user/atomvoyager/videos)
> > > >>>> has this option.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Look forward to hearing about how you and the boat are doing over
> > > time.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Jonathan
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:04 PM Ryan Young <ryoung at spiderhop.net>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks for the warm welcomes Jonathan and Gordon! Gordon - I'd
> > like
> > > to
> > > >>>>> throw a few rigid solar panels up, and thought an arch would be
> the
> > > >> best
> > > >>>>> way to accommodate so as they're out of the way. I don't think
> it
> > > will
> > > >>>>> negatively affect the aesthetics, but I'm still a bit on the
> fence
> > on
> > > >>>> that
> > > >>>>> claim.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> That looks like a good resource, Jonathan, I appreciate you
> > pointing
> > > me
> > > >>>>> there. I do indeed plan on staying in Seabrook (well, I'm
> > > technically
> > > >>>>> moving it to Kemah, TX - but only about 1.5 Kilometers away, as
> the
> > > >> crow
> > > >>>>> flies. I likely will change the name in the near future and will
> > let
> > > >> you
> > > >>>>> know if and when that happens, thanks again.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> -ry
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:23 PM Jonathan Bresler <
> > > >> 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Ryan,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Welcome aboard!
> > > >>>>>> Congratulations on getting #555.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Janus is an Alberg 30 with an arch.
> > > >>>>>> Some information and photos at
> > http://sailingseafari.blogspot.com/
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Will you be keeping the boat in Seabrook Texas?
> > > >>>>>> Do you plan on changing the name?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Best wishes,
> > > >>>>>> Jonathan
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:07 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> > > >>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Welcome aboard?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Why would you want to put an arch on an Alberg 30?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Gordon Laco
> > > >>>>>>> www.gordonlaco.com
> > > >>>>>>> 426 Surprise
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Ryan Young via Public-List <
> > > >>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> :) I should have mentioned I'm an excited new A30 owner!
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:21 PM Ryan <rnkiefer at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> By the way, I've sold my boat everyone! 555 now belongs to
> Ryan
> > > >>>> Young.
> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for all your help and advice!
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:52 PM Ryan Young via Public-List <
> > > >>>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hello folks!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I was curious if anyone has gone down the route of
> installing
> > a
> > > >>>>>>> stern sail
> > > >>>>>>>>>> arch? I'm not sure of the narrowness has a big impact. Do
> > > folks
> > > >>>> get
> > > >>>>>>>>>> these
> > > >>>>>>>>>> custom fabricated generally? Does anyone have any resources
> > for
> > > >>>>>>> kits?
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I'm
> > > >>>>>>>>>> hoping to mount a few rigid solar panels and I think this is
> > the
> > > >>>> best
> > > >>>>>>>>>> route
> > > >>>>>>>>>> but open to what other folks have done. Ideally I'd like to
> > get
> > > >>>> 300
> > > >>>>>>> Watts
> > > >>>>>>>>>> total at the least.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> -ry
> > > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> > > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Please support them.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Public-List mailing list
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>> -Ryan Kiefer
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> > > >>>>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > > >>>>>>>> Please support them.
> > > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> > > >>>>>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>>>>
> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> > > >>>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > > >>>>>>> Please support them.
> > > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> > > >>>>>>>
> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
> > > >>>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > > >>>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Jonathan M Bresler
> > > >>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > > >>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>> These businesses support your Association:
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> > > >>>> Please support them.
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> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> -Ryan Kiefer
> > > >>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>> These businesses support your Association:
> > > >>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > > >>> Please support them.
> > > >>> _______________________________________________
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> Message: 2
> > > >> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:04:48 -0400
> > > >> From: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
> > > >> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > > >> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] sail arch
> > > >> Message-ID:
> > > >> <CAHEe8Tstjnvuzvw5o0iN=
> > > >> d4Vrt6Xy--yPOQQEvY+UJ_A5Pvf7Q at mail.gmail.com>
> > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >>
> > > >> Marcelo,
> > > >>
> > > >> Please let us know how the install of th 50W panel on the stern
> pulpit
> > > >> goes.
> > > >> Have often allowed my mind to wander a bit on that very idea.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jonathan
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:10 AM Marcelo D. Gentinetta via
> > Public-List <
> > > >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Ryan,
> > > >>> Congratulations on acquiring 555 ! I am in New Orleans and
> actually
> > > met
> > > >>> George Copeland, the fellow that brought 555 down from N.C back in
> > > 2008.
> > > >> I
> > > >>> purchased the boat he was selling at the time, a Pearson Ariel that
> > was
> > > >> in
> > > >>> a slip close to 555 which he showed off after an extensive refit. I
> > > think
> > > >>> your boat?s name then was Atalanta.
> > > >>> I sold the Ariel before purchasing my A30 in 2017.
> > > >>> I am actually in the process of installing a 50w solar panel on the
> > > stern
> > > >>> pulpit for keeping the batteries charged in the slip and a little
> > extra
> > > >>> when sailing. As was mentioned by Jonathan, James Baldwin has
> great
> > > >>> details on installing solar panels on tracking poles.
> > > >>> Welcome!
> > > >>> Marcelo Gentinetta
> > > >>> #441 Alegria
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Ryan via Public-List <
> > > >>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Ryan,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This pole-with-solar option was done on Dolce with two poles on
> the
> > > >> aft.
> > > >>>> You can see a lot of videos of Dolce on her recent pacific voyages
> > on
> > > >> the
> > > >>>> youtube channel Routes of Change.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:24 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> > > >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Ryan,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Another option for solar is a pole with a single panel centered
> on
> > > the
> > > >>> top
> > > >>>>> of the pole with a ball joint.
> > > >>>>> The ball joint allows the panel to be angled to catch the most
> sun,
> > > >>> letting
> > > >>>>> you reposition (re-angle)
> > > >>>>> the panel every couple hours. You might mount a pole on each
> side
> > > >> aft.
> > > >>>>> Lora, Jason Jernigan's boat,
> > > >>>>> redone by James Baldwin (
> > > >>> https://www.youtube.com/user/atomvoyager/videos)
> > > >>>>> has this option.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Look forward to hearing about how you and the boat are doing over
> > > >> time.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Jonathan
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:04 PM Ryan Young <ryoung at spiderhop.net
> >
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Thanks for the warm welcomes Jonathan and Gordon! Gordon - I'd
> > like
> > > >> to
> > > >>>>>> throw a few rigid solar panels up, and thought an arch would be
> > the
> > > >>> best
> > > >>>>>> way to accommodate so as they're out of the way. I don't think
> it
> > > >> will
> > > >>>>>> negatively affect the aesthetics, but I'm still a bit on the
> fence
> > > on
> > > >>>>> that
> > > >>>>>> claim.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> That looks like a good resource, Jonathan, I appreciate you
> > pointing
> > > >> me
> > > >>>>>> there. I do indeed plan on staying in Seabrook (well, I'm
> > > >> technically
> > > >>>>>> moving it to Kemah, TX - but only about 1.5 Kilometers away, as
> > the
> > > >>> crow
> > > >>>>>> flies. I likely will change the name in the near future and
> will
> > > let
> > > >>> you
> > > >>>>>> know if and when that happens, thanks again.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> -ry
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:23 PM Jonathan Bresler <
> > > >>> 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Ryan,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Welcome aboard!
> > > >>>>>>> Congratulations on getting #555.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Janus is an Alberg 30 with an arch.
> > > >>>>>>> Some information and photos at
> > http://sailingseafari.blogspot.com/
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Will you be keeping the boat in Seabrook Texas?
> > > >>>>>>> Do you plan on changing the name?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Best wishes,
> > > >>>>>>> Jonathan
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:07 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> > > >>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Welcome aboard?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Why would you want to put an arch on an Alberg 30?
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Gordon Laco
> > > >>>>>>>> www.gordonlaco.com
> > > >>>>>>>> 426 Surprise
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Ryan Young via Public-List <
> > > >>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> :) I should have mentioned I'm an excited new A30 owner!
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:21 PM Ryan <rnkiefer at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> By the way, I've sold my boat everyone! 555 now belongs to
> > Ryan
> > > >>>>> Young.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all your help and advice!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:52 PM Ryan Young via Public-List <
> > > >>>>>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello folks!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I was curious if anyone has gone down the route of
> > installing a
> > > >>>>>>>> stern sail
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> arch? I'm not sure of the narrowness has a big impact. Do
> > > >> folks
> > > >>>>> get
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> these
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> custom fabricated generally? Does anyone have any
> resources
> > > for
> > > >>>>>>>> kits?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> hoping to mount a few rigid solar panels and I think this
> is
> > > the
> > > >>>>> best
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> route
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> but open to what other folks have done. Ideally I'd like
> to
> > > get
> > > >>>>> 300
> > > >>>>>>>> Watts
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> total at the least.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> -ry
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Please support them.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Public-List mailing list
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>> -Ryan Kiefer
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> > > >>>>>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > > >>>>>>>>> Please support them.
> > > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>>>>>> Public-List mailing list
> > > >>>>>>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> > > >>>>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > > >>>>>>>> Please support them.
> > > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>>>>> Public-List mailing list
> > > >>>>>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>>>>
> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
> > > >>>>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > > >>>>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
> > > >>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > > >>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> > > >>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > > >>>>> Please support them.
> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>> Public-List mailing list
> > > >>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> > > >>>>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> -Ryan Kiefer
> > > >>>> _______________________________________________
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> > > >> --
> > > >> Jonathan M Bresler
> > > >> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > > >> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> Message: 3
> > > >> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:23:54 -0400
> > > >> From: John Maliszewski <vzjrmalis at gmail.com>
> > > >> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org, 262alberg30 at gmail.com
> > > >> Subject: [Public-List] Gooseneck track repair and replacement
> > > >> Message-ID:
> > > >> <
> > > >> CA+JuSdbSR3goG4AhhSKTzpny0HZFOvH_Km+2OkaqQnjdTd4Cuw at mail.gmail.com>
> > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > >>
> > > >> Jonathan, you should be happy that this particular problem on your
> > boat
> > > >> (#262) had been solved a long time ago. The piece of teak or
> whatever
> > > >> Whitby used as the track spacer had been replaced with a piece of
> > naval
> > > >> brass machined to size. This peculiar Whitby construction formed a
> > less
> > > >> expensive "T" and served its purpose for many years. In this case,
> > after
> > > >> creating a brass spacer machined to size with clearance holes, I
> > simply
> > > >> shifted the hole pattern by half of the pitch of the existing holes
> on
> > > the
> > > >> mast, and drilled and tapped a new set of mounting holes. The mast
> > cross
> > > >> section thickness of the flat section of the mast is .167 inches and
> > the
> > > >> inside flat measures 1.700 inches. ( I will ask George D. to
> publish a
> > > >> dimensioned cross section drawing of the mast on the A30 website.)
> > > >> Given 1/4 -20 thread screws that should give a full three
> > > >> treads engagement in the flat portion of the mast. Introducing a new
> > > backup
> > > >> plate is more trouble than it is worth.
> > > >> The original problem is that the wooden spacer deteriorates over
> time
> > > and
> > > >> allows the rail portion of the "T" to move and even perhaps become
> > > >> completely loose. Loose state of this engagement point reduces
> > > considerably
> > > >> the strength of the gooseneck assembly mounting, especially during
> the
> > > >> accidental jibes, and leads to broken screws or compromised treads
> in
> > > the
> > > >> mounting holes.
> > > >>
> > > >> John Maliszewski
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:30:33 -0400
> > From: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Subject: [Public-List] mast extrusion
> > Message-ID: <21b006da-9d55-4301-1bab-592c454ab3a9 at alberg30.org>
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> >
> > Thanks to John Maliszewski, we now have an accurate measurement of the
> > stock mast extrusion posted on the website.
> >
> > See http://alberg30.org/maintenance/SparsSailsRigging/measurements.html
> >
> > - George
> >
> > --
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > When I remember bygone days George Dinwiddie
> > I think how evening follows morn; gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
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