[Public-List] Dodger
Carla
hazlegrove at aol.com
Wed Jun 24 04:24:19 PDT 2020
Christopher,
I have done both, diy and professionally made.
When I purchased Quest, it came with a modest dodger with little portholes and it served well for a few years. When it came time to replace many years ago I decided to build a new one myself and followed the Sailrite DVD using a 30 year old Singer machine. I had no sewing experience. Keep in mind that the shape of the dodger is determined by how you shape of stainless frame. Fortunately the existing frame was bent for a lot less boxy dodger design than the images I have seen on Sailrite. Making the forward bow strapped a little further aft will reduce the rake of the “windshield” for a nicer look. Write me offline and I can send some images.
I spent a considerable time over the winter building the dodger. It’s not overly difficult but attention to detail is necessary especially involving the compound curves at the bows. A lot of the work is not very intuitive and the DVD provides tips and techniques that I would have never figured it out without it.
Having said that, when it came time to replace the one I previously built, my aging back was not going to tolerate the hours of work sitting on the hardwood floor (my loft) that I spent 15 years ago. So last year I had one patterned and built by a good canvas shop for about $1,500 (including window covers but no stainless work). I was satisfied with both choices given the circumstances.
Richard Hazlegrove
Quest 433
Mobjack Bay, VA
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> Greetings,Anyone have experience with getting a new dodger installed on their Alberg 30, or ordering kit from Sailrite or elsewhere and making their own? I'm not quite sure I like the boxy shape of the Sailrite dodger kit for serious weather/ offshore purposes, and wondering if it's worth the time and work and savings involved to do a diy dodger? How much has it cost you to have the pros do a dodger on your A30? Is it a fair amount of savings to do a diy dodger and worth the time and effort? Especially if I can procure an old working portable industrial Singer sowing machine? Thinking of savings in this area to put towards other offshore upgrades like wind vane, anchors, solar, gimballed stove, dinghy, bow roller, eventual manual windlass, etc.. Any info on your experiences or recommendations are much appreciated. Thanks
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> Always enjoy your write-ups Gord. Thank you!
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> If I ever get to retire, I hope to sail #11 up to Georgian Bay.
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>> Hello gang -
>> This past weekend SURPRISE did her first cruise of 2020?. we cast off from
>> the club in Midland right after lunch and motored out into the harbour.
>> Ya, I left the office early, but I had my phone in my pocket so was able
>> to respond to client?s requests, this time without that quizzical ?Gord, do
>> I hear water in the background? Are you sailing !??.
>> The air was very light and on the nose, so we decided to motor out at
>> least as far as Midland Point and see what was happening there. We hummed
>> along at 6.4 knots with 1200rpm on the clock, oil pressure high, coolant in
>> the zone, ammeter showing a steady charge. Motoring in a calm is quite
>> nice when you want to get somewhere? no remorse or embarrassment due to
>> there being no alternative.
>> Off Midland point there was still no air, so we kept motoring. Off Rod?s
>> place we saw he hadn?t launched his boat yet, but there he was reading a
>> book on his beach so we swooped in to yell a hello. Looking forward to
>> seeing you in the water again Rod? I?ve got a good friend in the final
>> stages of buying an Invader 36, full keeled version of your Frigate, and
>> he?s bringing it to Midland. We?ll have to come by and cast down the
>> gauntlet before you, as in ?come out and do battle?'
>> So on down the Sound we motored? a bit of air developed but by now I was
>> looking forward to a cold beer at anchor at Methodist Point, so we kept the
>> mill turning and motored all the way. Down went the hook (the wind had
>> gone calm again so I was relieved of guilt for motoring). The still water
>> was crystal clear? every detail of the anchor was visible on the bottom so
>> we could see it was well dug in.
>> Caroline went for a swim, brave girl, but I stayed aboard reading and
>> sipping that beer I?d been looking forward to. There were only a few
>> boats in the anchorage and everyone had the good manners to stay apart, and
>> the single powered vessel there did NOT run her generator, so we had a
>> lovely evening.
>> I have to remark that a brand new ?Hanse? about 50? long came in and
>> anchored? what an ugly boat, ugly from any angle. I marvelled at how such
>> an utterly graceless object could attract a buyer?. oh well, it?s the new
>> normal.
>> Incredible stars after a belated sunset, it being just about the longest
>> day of the year. A bit of reading in our bunks then a sound sleep.
>> Got up early, made coffee and after clearing up breakfast we hoisted the
>> main and set off for Christian Island. I do love sailing off the anchor,
>> and marvel that so few people do it. There was hardly a breath of air,
>> but that?s enough to get SURPRISE gliding. While Caroline catted the
>> anchor up forward, I pushed the main out to starboard to back the sail?
>> obediently SURPRISE reversed away gently from over her hook and once facing
>> outward, I let the main swing over to port and out to the shrouds. In no
>> time there was a gurgle at her bow and the knot meter was registering .2
>> then .6 then 1.2 knots. Out came the genoa, and the speed jumped to 2.2
>> and away we went.
>> Outside the sheltering hook of the point, we glided past some fishermen,
>> whose voices came to us over the still water? ?what a pretty boat? must
>> have an electric motor?. And the answer from the other fisherman ?no Bob,
>> I think they?re really sailing?. Bob: ?but there?s no wind?. Well there
>> was and enough.
>> Within half an hour the zephyr built and built and soon SURPRISE was
>> bounding along for the northern cape of Beckwith Island with a bone in her
>> teeth close reaching and 5.7 knots on the meter. What a glorious
>> morning.
>> By lunch we were around the top of Beckwith and looking down the channel
>> toward Little Sand Bay on Christian Island, the place Gordon Lightfoot was
>> anchored in Golden Goose when he wrote the famous song? we had the usual
>> thrill as we came in with 170? showing on the depth gauge which suddenly
>> jumped to 12? as we crossed the drop-off and the startlingly visible sandy
>> bottom raced by beneath us. We picked a nice spot and rounded up head to
>> wind, furled up the genny, and as we slowed I pushed the main out to
>> starboard backing the sail and putting on the brakes. As our forward way
>> ended and the boat began backing up, I said quietly to Caroline ?let go!?
>> and out spun the chain when she released the brake on the windlass. As
>> the 50? marker went by she put the brake on again and laid a hand on the
>> chain to feel the anchor dig in? and dig in it did. She gave me a thumbs
>> up, then came back to the mast and let the main fall when I called the
>> usual ?bombs away!?. We furled up and in m
>> inutes were relaxing in the cockpit.
>> Caroline swam again, but me, quite averse to early season cold water,
>> stayed in the cockpit again but felt very clever for putting a bucket of
>> water on the stern for the sun to warm. I had a nice sponge bath with warm
>> water a couple of hours later.
>> We had another BBQ dinner, and sipping wine went back to reading Jackie
>> Stewart?s autobiography together. I read aloud while Caroline knits? we
>> both feel like we know the man by this point. What an interesting and
>> thoroughly honourable man Stewart is. Thank you Marianne of WINDWARD for
>> lending us that book.
>> Another quiet night with blazing stars? enjoyed the first sighting of the
>> season of the diving ducks whose antics we laugh at. When one dives, they
>> all suddenly follow? then pop up again in quick succession, each one
>> looking around in apparent surprise at where they are and where all the
>> others are.
>> Morning? now we?re up to Sunday. The weather forecast showed a high
>> probability of thunder squalls in the afternoon so we plucked up the anchor
>> early, again amazing our neighbours in the anchorage by sailing off. Away
>> around the northern cape of Beckwith? away reaching down to the southern
>> tip of Giant?s Tomb Island and the elusive green pin off Bennett Reef down
>> there. This is one of those we swear moves around to hide from us. Ya we
>> could have flicked on the GPS but that?s hardly sporting.
>> Much to my delight there was a boat astern of us, which we did the classic
>> horizon job on, leaving it a dwindling dot behind us. Ahead was a
>> nondescript Catalina 36 trudging along looking completely ungainly with a
>> full enclosure ?oxygen tent? over its cockpit and awkward dinghy on davits
>> high over its stern. We ground him down as we beat tack upon tack up the
>> sound, but the air grew light as we closed the gap with him? the light air
>> accentuated the great heat, and it was with some secret relief that I
>> announced to Caroline ?he?s given up! He?s motoring!? Which of course
>> meant that we could now motor too?
>> Around Midland Point we hummed, than back to the club, putting a harbour
>> stow on the mainsail as we approached the spit. We went to the club?s
>> utility dock to do a pump out? there was Inukshook II, stepping her mast.
>> I called over to her skipper ?were?s the other hulls?? thinking this was
>> comic genius, because he?d just sold his trimaran and now had a monohulled
>> ?normal? boat.
>> Then something regrettable happened? we were tied up and the hose was
>> chugging the contents of our holding tank, Gerry was just getting his mast
>> vertical astern of us under the mast crane? and along came a motorboat
>> towing a wake up the club?s channel. There is a public launching ramp up
>> at the end of the channel so sometimes boat traffic dragging wakes is
>> inconvenient. Gerry and his helpers were having some difficulty getting
>> the butt of his mast into the step, and the approaching motor boat wasn?t
>> slowing down? worse, it changed its course to come skimming along past
>> Gerry?s boat about four feet off and was heading for us.
>> I jumped up onto our cabin top and made a two handed downward pressing
>> motion hoping to indicate slow down please, then pointed to their wake.
>> The guy driving the motorboat was smiling and as I made my signals, he
>> shouted ?WELL HELLO GORD LACO!? I?m sorry I don?t know who he was ? but
>> his smile instantly turned to a frown and as he swept past us just a few
>> feet away, I heard him say to his companion ?I?m not going that fast? and
>> he kept going. I called over ?they?re just getting to the critical part!
>> point to the guys struggling with the mast? but I don?t think the fellow in
>> the motorboat heard me.
>> Gerry called over ?thanks!? but the guy in the motorboat was clearly
>> offended. I wish I knew who that was?
>> Oh well? it was a great weekend otherwise? About two hours after we got
>> back the squalls came through; driving rain, thunder, we were glad we
>> weren?t still out on the water and hoped those who were saw it coming...
>> Gordon Laco
>> www.gordonlaco.com
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> Beware of scams!
>
> I just got a letter in the mail from "Vessel Documentation Portal"
> warning me that my Certificate of Documentation was set to expire. (It
> actually expires at the end of October. I went to the site,
> vesselrenewal(dot)us, and was filling out the renewal form when saw they
> wanted to charge $75 to renew. This didn't seem right, so I ran a whois
> on the site and found it's registered to
>
>> Registrant Name: Vessel Renewal
>> Registrant Organization: Vessel Renewal
>> Registrant Street: 1900 E Beach Blvd
>> Registrant Street:
>> Registrant Street:
>> Registrant City: Long Beach
>> Registrant State/Province: California
>> Registrant Postal Code: 90802
>> Registrant Country: us
>> Registrant Phone: +1.8663430530
>> Registrant Phone Ext:
>> Registrant Fax:
>> Registrant Fax Ext:
>> Registrant Email: danny at seoexpertdanny.com
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> For those that don't know "seo" stands for Search Engine Optimization,
> techniques to make your web site appear higher in the results when
> someone searches. While there's some legitimate need to make a site show
> up for certain web searches, most SEO companies will completely
> misrepresent a site, and live by spamming site operators. So this
> slime-bucket has decided to misrepresent the USCG Vessel Documentation
> Center, also.
>
> When I searched for the actual USCG Vessel Documentation Center, I
> noticed in the search results that there is a similar company,
> unitedstatesvessel(dot)us, also trying to skim money from documentation
> renewals.
>
> While the USCG Vessel Documentation Center may not be optimizing their
> site for search engines, you can renew your documentation online for
> only $26 at https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/1175233
>
> I don't know if the USCG sends notices to remind you to renew or not. I
> went ahead and renewed mine.
>
> - George
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> I almost fell for this one myself last year. Of course, the envelope and letterhead look like official USCG stationery. I really believed it was from the Coast Guard! I finally figured it was a scam when I realized I would be charged for the transaction.
>
> The actual online process at the Coast Guard website is quick and easy.
>
> Damn the Scammers!
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>> On Jun 23, 2020, at 12:44 PM, George Dinwiddie via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>> ?Beware of scams!
>>
>> I just got a letter in the mail from "Vessel Documentation Portal" warning me that my Certificate of Documentation was set to expire. (It actually expires at the end of October. I went to the site, vesselrenewal(dot)us, and was filling out the renewal form when saw they wanted to charge $75 to renew. This didn't seem right, so I ran a whois on the site and found it's registered to
>>
>>> Registrant Name: Vessel Renewal
>>> Registrant Organization: Vessel Renewal
>>> Registrant Street: 1900 E Beach Blvd
>>> Registrant Street:
>>> Registrant Street:
>>> Registrant City: Long Beach
>>> Registrant State/Province: California
>>> Registrant Postal Code: 90802
>>> Registrant Country: us
>>> Registrant Phone: +1.8663430530
>>> Registrant Phone Ext:
>>> Registrant Fax:
>>> Registrant Fax Ext:
>>> Registrant Email: danny at seoexpertdanny.com
>>
>> For those that don't know "seo" stands for Search Engine Optimization, techniques to make your web site appear higher in the results when someone searches. While there's some legitimate need to make a site show up for certain web searches, most SEO companies will completely misrepresent a site, and live by spamming site operators. So this slime-bucket has decided to misrepresent the USCG Vessel Documentation Center, also.
>>
>> When I searched for the actual USCG Vessel Documentation Center, I noticed in the search results that there is a similar company, unitedstatesvessel(dot)us, also trying to skim money from documentation renewals.
>>
>> While the USCG Vessel Documentation Center may not be optimizing their site for search engines, you can renew your documentation online for only $26 at https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/1175233
>>
>> I don't know if the USCG sends notices to remind you to renew or not. I went ahead and renewed mine.
>>
>> - George
>>
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