[Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit

Mon Jun 29 05:44:47 PDT 2020

I installed hasps on the cockpit lockers with the hinge on top, so the
plate would hang over the hasp.   Then I started having nightmares about
being trapped in a locker.  I reversed them and sleep better. They should
be secured when sailing in any case without relying on gravity !

Mike
Rinn Duin #272

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 21:54 Don Campbell via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Hi Winslow:
>      You will find that whatever you do to access the stuffing box area,
> you will have that trouble of good grasp and leverage.. It will always
> be difficult to get two arms in through any opening with any ability to
> see as well. And then you will need to have some sort of wrench to help
> to get the tension you want on the stuffing box threads so it leaks by
> the droplet if you use conventional flax. I found that two small pipe
> wrenches could work over the motor. And it you do not like 4 spark plug
> indentations on your sternum, you can remove those,  but have them
> numbered so you get the firing order correct. You could also make flat
> wrenches out of 1/8 steel  to fit the nuts on the stuffing box, or you
> may find some like that that would do  in plumbing hardware that
> plumbers use for working on traps. I think in the end, you will have
> more leverage more easily  by going over the motor than one handing it
> through access from the lateral lockers. If you do the lateral locker
> modification, and get into the locker to "see what you are doing" make
> very sure you tie up the lid extra securely before you get in and block
> off any way the hasp can catch if  the lid closes. Otherwise , you are
> trapped in that locker and Safety First is the motto!!
>      I have been in both the lateral lockers and the lazarette, and none
> is very comfortable, or easy to manoeuver in,  or easy to get out from,
> especially if you are of any size over 6 feet tall.
> Don
>
>
> Original Message ------
> From: "Winslow Ayer via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Cc: "Winslow Ayer" <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
> Sent: 2020-06-28 9:55:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
>
> >The big problem I have is loosening and tightening the stuffing box nut.
> Just can’t get a good grasp and the leverage.
> >
> >Winslow
> >#283 Tinkers Damn
> >
> >>  On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:23 AM, americo silva via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>  i am contemplating doing like the Albin Vega and making a big Hatch
> Cover
> >>
> >>  On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:04 PM John Brugeman via Public-List <
> >>public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  I have a good hedge that I never installed on 306 I mean 305. It’s
> brand
> >>>  new still in the box. When I get home Monday I can send you a picture
> and
> >>>  give me the size if you’re interested.
> >>>
> >>>  Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>>  On Jun 27, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Don Campbell via Public-List <
> >>>public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  It is not just about watertight. It is also about the design for
> >>>  watertight if the boat is hit by a wave and the cockpit filled with
> water.
> >>>  That includes significant weight in the cockpit and in the boat. It
> will
> >>>  change the buoyancy of the hull and if that mass leaks into the hull,
> it
> >>>  will significantly hinder the ability to recover and manoever that
> >>>  waterlogged hull.  The round access fitting  is to allow for a wheel
> >>>  pedestal and access for those cable controls. Sometimes what you
> would like
> >>>  and what is safe in all circustances is not the same thing.  For the
> number
> >>>  of times one accesses the stuffing box and drive shaft, one can go
> over the
> >>>  motor, or if things require major work, take the motor out. It takes
> me
> >>>  about an hour and a half to remove the motor and about 2 1/2 hours to
> put
> >>>  it back in and realign it. Safety is the main thing here and if the
> boat is
> >>>  compromised by adding access hatches, then the resale value is much
> less.
> >>>  There are times when one needs to appreciate the expertise involved in
> >>>  design and then respect that the designer has done things with reason
> and
> >>>  for safety in all conditions.
> >>>>  Don Campbell
> >>>>
> >>>>  ------ Original Message ------
> >>>>  From: "Winslow Ayer via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >
> >>>>  To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >>>>  Cc: "Winslow Ayer" <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
> >>>>  Sent: 2020-06-27 9:51:46 AM
> >>>>  Subject: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
> >>>>
> >>>>>  Anyone know of a good watertight access hatch to replace the small
> one
> >>>  in the sole of the cockpit? Would like easier access to the drive
> shaft and
> >>>  stuffing box. I can reach but not really do a lot without help from
> the
> >>>  engine side.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Winslow
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