[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 4018, Issue 1

Tue Jun 9 07:07:17 PDT 2020

Hi Gordon,    Thanks for asking. I did well. At its highest (about 0330) the water was just over the top of the boat box in this picture (oops, picture may not post, I estimate a 6 ft surge here). Had it risen another foot above that I would have had a serious problem with line length and placement so I am remaking and rethinking my hurricane spring lines. If (when?) it rises say 2 or 3 ft above that, survival of any boats in this bayou will be left more to happenstance than preparation.     The Lakefront and this marina now flood whenever we have consistently strong south or south east winds, which is several times each year, so the area has adjusted pretty much to this level of flooding. The only reason my boat still exists is because Mandeville was on the west side of Hurricane Katrina so the storm surge was on the south shore (New Orleans). 

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On Monday, June 8, 2020, 7:40 PM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:

How did you fare in the storm, Daniel?

Gordon Lacowww.gordonlaco.com

On Jun 8, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Daniel Swords via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
I could not have found the leak on mine without removing it from the cutlass bearing housing and very closely examining the pipe threads which had a very tiny crack. Daniel Swords #525

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Stern tube (George Dinwiddie)
  2. Re: Multiple pock marks on hull below waterline (Richard Hansen)
  3. Re: Stern tube (Joseph Balderson)
  4. Re: Stern tube (Joseph Balderson)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 19:01:42 -0400
From: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Stern tube
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Gerard,

I find it very difficult to determine the location of a leak with the 
boat out of the water. Get a good flashlight and take as close a look as 
you can. Look for wet spots and then look above them. Be patient.

In my case, I had failed to completely caulk the upper bolt holding the 
cutless bearing housing. I saw a water droplet on the end of that bolt.

Sometimes I've used my phone to take videos of things I couldn't see 
otherwise.

When you've found the general location, clean it as well as you can and 
wrap a paper towel around it. See where the damp spot is.

  - George

On 6/6/20 10:29 PM, Gerard Kuperus via Public-List wrote:

Thank you again for all the very helpful replies to this topic. I managed to schedule a haul-out for Wednesday, which was a bit of a challenge as boat yards have been closed earlier and many don't allow DIY.
As I am getting ready for the haul out, I am wondering how to approach this. First, I need to figure out the source of the leak. Can I inspect the stern tube without taking it out?
If the stern tube is fine how do I go about the repair? Clean everything as best as possible? Then pump a ton of 4200 in the the area between the stern tube and the surrounding deadwood? It seems that there is some rubber seal. Should I worry about that?
Would it be best to take out the stern tube anyway? It seems Mike got a solid approach to removing it, but again I would rather leave it in unless absolutely necessary.

Gerard

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 21:36:48 -0400
From: Richard Hansen <rdhansenjr at gmail.com>
To: James Cowhey <james.cowhey at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Multiple pock marks on hull below waterline
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Thanks for the info, James.  I'll put Pettit on the short list.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 12:53 PM James Cowhey <james.cowhey at gmail.com> wrote:

On Mocuisle # 56 I had good success so far with Pettit EZ-Tex as a filler
sanded fair and then coated with West System epoxy, primer as and bottom
paint.  The hull had no blisters after 55 years just dings and scrapes.
Been one season since the repair

James Cowhey
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On Jun 6, 2020, at 9:01 AM, Richard Hansen via Public-List <

public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

?I have a moonscape of a gazillion small (1/4-1/2) pocks, chips,

blemishes

(whatever the right word is) on Sunspur's hull at and below the waterline
(no blisters--she's probably way too old for that).  I suspect these

pocks

have been blissfully there for decades, presumably sound under multiple
coats of not completely removed bottom paint over the years?  Now that

the

boatyard sanded those security blankets off, what do I do with this 53

year

old hull?  Can I just repaint with 2-3 coats of ablative bottom paint?

Is

some sort of universal high-build epoxy primer & barrier coat

(TotalProtect

or Gelshield or similar roll-on bottom coat) nice to have or need to

have?

Seems improbable to hand fill and sand the moonscape.  Thank you for your
advice and guidance.
Richard Hansen
Sun Spur #235
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 22:44:16 -0400
From: Joseph Balderson <joebinc at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Stern tube
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Tim Lacky is a good man. Good advice, good techniques, excellent
documentation. I don't know how one man can get that much done.
Joe B

On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 7:01 PM George Dinwiddie via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

Gerard,

I find it very difficult to determine the location of a leak with the
boat out of the water. Get a good flashlight and take as close a look as
you can. Look for wet spots and then look above them. Be patient.

In my case, I had failed to completely caulk the upper bolt holding the
cutless bearing housing. I saw a water droplet on the end of that bolt.

Sometimes I've used my phone to take videos of things I couldn't see
otherwise.

When you've found the general location, clean it as well as you can and
wrap a paper towel around it. See where the damp spot is.

  - George

On 6/6/20 10:29 PM, Gerard Kuperus via Public-List wrote:

Thank you again for all the very helpful replies to this topic. I

managed to schedule a haul-out for Wednesday, which was a bit of a
challenge as boat yards have been closed earlier and many don't allow DIY.

As I am getting ready for the haul out, I am wondering how to approach

this. First, I need to figure out the source of the leak. Can I inspect the
stern tube without taking it out?

If the stern tube is fine how do I go about the repair? Clean everything

as best as possible? Then pump a ton of 4200 in the the area between the
stern tube and the surrounding deadwood? It seems that there is some rubber
seal. Should I worry about that?

Would it be best to take out the stern tube anyway? It seems Mike got a

solid approach to removing it, but again I would rather leave it in unless
absolutely necessary.

Gerard

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 22:52:10 -0400
From: Joseph Balderson <joebinc at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Stern tube
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Get the g10 tube that has the id that is the same as the cutlass bearing
od. Leave enough of the tube exposed beyond the stern post for a pair of
set screws to capture the cutlass bearing. I set the new tube in thickened
West System. You'll need to have a thoroughly clean shaft alley for the
glue bond.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 10:44 PM Joseph Balderson <joebinc at gmail.com> wrote:

Tim Lacky is a good man. Good advice, good techniques, excellent
documentation. I don't know how one man can get that much done.
Joe B

On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 7:01 PM George Dinwiddie via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

Gerard,

I find it very difficult to determine the location of a leak with the
boat out of the water. Get a good flashlight and take as close a look as
you can. Look for wet spots and then look above them. Be patient.

In my case, I had failed to completely caulk the upper bolt holding the
cutless bearing housing. I saw a water droplet on the end of that bolt.

Sometimes I've used my phone to take videos of things I couldn't see
otherwise.

When you've found the general location, clean it as well as you can and
wrap a paper towel around it. See where the damp spot is.

  - George

On 6/6/20 10:29 PM, Gerard Kuperus via Public-List wrote:

Thank you again for all the very helpful replies to this topic. I

managed to schedule a haul-out for Wednesday, which was a bit of a
challenge as boat yards have been closed earlier and many don't allow DIY.

As I am getting ready for the haul out, I am wondering how to approach

this. First, I need to figure out the source of the leak. Can I inspect the
stern tube without taking it out?

If the stern tube is fine how do I go about the repair? Clean

everything as best as possible? Then pump a ton of 4200 in the the area
between the stern tube and the surrounding deadwood? It seems that there is
some rubber seal. Should I worry about that?

Would it be best to take out the stern tube anyway? It seems Mike got a

solid approach to removing it, but again I would rather leave it in unless
absolutely necessary.

Gerard

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    I think how evening follows morn;            gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
    So many I loved were not yet dead,          http://www.Alberg30.org
    So many I love were not yet born.                          also see:
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