[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 4028, Issue 1
Wes Gardner
wesgardner1952 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 29 09:58:19 PDT 2020
And for us who just sail around the Bay - Tempress polycarb hatch 13x23 1/4
works just fine.
Wes
On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:44 AM David Fay via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> I too have a Bomar hatch in my cockpit floor and wouldn't have anything
> else. It is very strong and has robust latches. It is not wide enough to
> get my shoulders through, nor would I want to. So mostly I work one-handed.
> But in a pinch I can get both arms down, although with limited visibility.
>
> Tightening the stuffing box is a piece of cake. It also gives good access
> to the connecting flanges on the drivetrain, the transmission (to change
> the oil), and the rear motor mounts.
>
> My only complaint is that the seal around the hatch cover is not perfect
> and a little rain water will leak into the bilge from time to time through
> the hatch.
>
> David
> Blue Teal #284
>
> > On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Daniel Swords via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > I have an aluminum Bomar access hatch in my cockpit floor and I am very
> happy with it. My cockpit floor had been replaced by the previous owner due
> to rot. If I ever have to replace it again I would try to make the entire
> floor (or at least most of it) “removable” (bolted or screwed to a frame).
> But I don’t plan to round Cape Horn, sail the Southern Ocean or the North
> Atlantic.
> >
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> > 1. Re: Access hatch for cockpit (Marcelo D. Gentinetta)
> > 2. Re: Access hatch for cockpit (Don Campbell)
> > 3. Re: Access hatch for cockpit (Winslow Ayer)
> > 4. Re: Access hatch for cockpit (Mike Meinhold)
> >
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 17:56:56 -0500
> > From: "Marcelo D. Gentinetta" <vanguard64 at cox.net>
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
> > Message-ID: <D5C1C461-6B96-496E-823A-CFD8EAADAAD0 at cox.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Hi Americo,
> > From what I have personally researched, the only safe, leak proof
> rectangular hatch is made of aluminum by Bomar. Hamilton Marine carries
> them and as you will see are very expensive. From experience on another
> boat I owned, the plastic ones all leak after a year or two.
> > Take care,
> > Marcelo
> > 441 Alegr?a
> >
> >> On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:39 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Americo -
> >>
> >> I would suggest that as Don says below, compromising the safety of the
> yacht for convenience of access which would only rarely be used is probably
> not wise.
> >>
> >> Gordon Laco
> >> www.gordonlaco.com
> >> 426 Surprise
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:23 AM, americo silva via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> i am contemplating doing like the Albin Vega and making a big Hatch
> Cover
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:04 PM John Brugeman via Public-List <
> >>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have a good hedge that I never installed on 306 I mean 305. It?s
> brand
> >>>> new still in the box. When I get home Monday I can send you a picture
> and
> >>>> give me the size if you?re interested.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Don Campbell via Public-List <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ?It is not just about watertight. It is also about the design for
> >>>> watertight if the boat is hit by a wave and the cockpit filled with
> water.
> >>>> That includes significant weight in the cockpit and in the boat. It
> will
> >>>> change the buoyancy of the hull and if that mass leaks into the hull,
> it
> >>>> will significantly hinder the ability to recover and manoever that
> >>>> waterlogged hull. The round access fitting is to allow for a wheel
> >>>> pedestal and access for those cable controls. Sometimes what you
> would like
> >>>> and what is safe in all circustances is not the same thing. For the
> number
> >>>> of times one accesses the stuffing box and drive shaft, one can go
> over the
> >>>> motor, or if things require major work, take the motor out. It takes
> me
> >>>> about an hour and a half to remove the motor and about 2 1/2 hours to
> put
> >>>> it back in and realign it. Safety is the main thing here and if the
> boat is
> >>>> compromised by adding access hatches, then the resale value is much
> less.
> >>>> There are times when one needs to appreciate the expertise involved in
> >>>> design and then respect that the designer has done things with reason
> and
> >>>> for safety in all conditions.
> >>>>> Don Campbell
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------
> >>>>> From: "Winslow Ayer via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >
> >>>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >>>>> Cc: "Winslow Ayer" <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Sent: 2020-06-27 9:51:46 AM
> >>>>> Subject: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyone know of a good watertight access hatch to replace the small
> one
> >>>> in the sole of the cockpit? Would like easier access to the drive
> shaft and
> >>>> stuffing box. I can reach but not really do a lot without help from
> the
> >>>> engine side.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Winslow
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 01:54:47 +0000
> > From: "Don Campbell" <dk.campbell at xplornet.ca>
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
> > Message-ID: <emd1d0db39-e484-46a8-98bb-6a4e2c375320 at desktop-kadjbdn>
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> >
> > Hi Winslow:
> > You will find that whatever you do to access the stuffing box area,
> > you will have that trouble of good grasp and leverage.. It will always
> > be difficult to get two arms in through any opening with any ability to
> > see as well. And then you will need to have some sort of wrench to help
> > to get the tension you want on the stuffing box threads so it leaks by
> > the droplet if you use conventional flax. I found that two small pipe
> > wrenches could work over the motor. And it you do not like 4 spark plug
> > indentations on your sternum, you can remove those, but have them
> > numbered so you get the firing order correct. You could also make flat
> > wrenches out of 1/8 steel to fit the nuts on the stuffing box, or you
> > may find some like that that would do in plumbing hardware that
> > plumbers use for working on traps. I think in the end, you will have
> > more leverage more easily by going over the motor than one handing it
> > through access from the lateral lockers. If you do the lateral locker
> > modification, and get into the locker to "see what you are doing" make
> > very sure you tie up the lid extra securely before you get in and block
> > off any way the hasp can catch if the lid closes. Otherwise , you are
> > trapped in that locker and Safety First is the motto!!
> > I have been in both the lateral lockers and the lazarette, and none
> > is very comfortable, or easy to manoeuver in, or easy to get out from,
> > especially if you are of any size over 6 feet tall.
> > Don
> >
> >
> > Original Message ------
> > From: "Winslow Ayer via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Cc: "Winslow Ayer" <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
> > Sent: 2020-06-28 9:55:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
> >
> >> The big problem I have is loosening and tightening the stuffing box
> nut. Just can?t get a good grasp and the leverage.
> >>
> >> Winslow
> >> #283 Tinkers Damn
> >>
> >>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:23 AM, americo silva via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> i am contemplating doing like the Albin Vega and making a big Hatch
> Cover
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:04 PM John Brugeman via Public-List <
> >>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have a good hedge that I never installed on 306 I mean 305. It?s
> brand
> >>>> new still in the box. When I get home Monday I can send you a
> picture and
> >>>> give me the size if you?re interested.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Don Campbell via Public-List <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ?It is not just about watertight. It is also about the design for
> >>>> watertight if the boat is hit by a wave and the cockpit filled with
> water.
> >>>> That includes significant weight in the cockpit and in the boat. It
> will
> >>>> change the buoyancy of the hull and if that mass leaks into the
> hull, it
> >>>> will significantly hinder the ability to recover and manoever that
> >>>> waterlogged hull. The round access fitting is to allow for a wheel
> >>>> pedestal and access for those cable controls. Sometimes what you
> would like
> >>>> and what is safe in all circustances is not the same thing. For
> the number
> >>>> of times one accesses the stuffing box and drive shaft, one can go
> over the
> >>>> motor, or if things require major work, take the motor out. It
> takes me
> >>>> about an hour and a half to remove the motor and about 2 1/2 hours
> to put
> >>>> it back in and realign it. Safety is the main thing here and if the
> boat is
> >>>> compromised by adding access hatches, then the resale value is much
> less.
> >>>> There are times when one needs to appreciate the expertise involved
> in
> >>>> design and then respect that the designer has done things with
> reason and
> >>>> for safety in all conditions.
> >>>>> Don Campbell
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------
> >>>>> From: "Winslow Ayer via Public-List" <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >>>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >>>>> Cc: "Winslow Ayer" <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Sent: 2020-06-27 9:51:46 AM
> >>>>> Subject: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyone know of a good watertight access hatch to replace the
> small one
> >>>> in the sole of the cockpit? Would like easier access to the drive
> shaft and
> >>>> stuffing box. I can reach but not really do a lot without help from
> the
> >>>> engine side.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Winslow
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> >>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> >>>>>> Please support them.
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> >>>>>
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 05:07:34 -0400
> > From: Winslow Ayer <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
> > To: Don Campbell <dk.campbell at xplornet.ca>, Alberg 30 Public List --
> > open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
> > Message-ID: <9A7F5006-315D-4D57-A306-3B5CD73D12EE at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Thanks Don, I think I?ll leave things for now. I usually have a second
> (or third) hand around to help with the holding so I can loosen and tighten
> the nut. I just won?t be able to do it by myself. I?m 6? and getting into
> the locker doesn?t sound like fun. I can usually muddle my way over the
> engine but I was hoping someone had a decent alternative.
> >
> > Stay well, be safe and happy sailing,
> >
> > Winslow
> > #283 Tinkers Damn
> >
> >> On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Don Campbell via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Hi Winslow:
> >> You will find that whatever you do to access the stuffing box area,
> you will have that trouble of good grasp and leverage.. It will always be
> difficult to get two arms in through any opening with any ability to see as
> well. And then you will need to have some sort of wrench to help to get the
> tension you want on the stuffing box threads so it leaks by the droplet if
> you use conventional flax. I found that two small pipe wrenches could work
> over the motor. And it you do not like 4 spark plug indentations on your
> sternum, you can remove those, but have them numbered so you get the
> firing order correct. You could also make flat wrenches out of 1/8 steel
> to fit the nuts on the stuffing box, or you may find some like that that
> would do in plumbing hardware that plumbers use for working on traps. I
> think in the end, you will have more leverage more easily by going over
> the motor than one handing it through access from the lateral lockers. If
> you do the lateral locker modification,
> > and get into the locker to "see what you are doing" make very sure you
> tie up the lid extra securely before you get in and block off any way the
> hasp can catch if the lid closes. Otherwise , you are trapped in that
> locker and Safety First is the motto!!
> >> I have been in both the lateral lockers and the lazarette, and
> none is very comfortable, or easy to manoeuver in, or easy to get out
> from, especially if you are of any size over 6 feet tall.
> >> Don
> >>
> >>
> >> Original Message ------
> >> From: "Winslow Ayer via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> Cc: "Winslow Ayer" <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
> >> Sent: 2020-06-28 9:55:27 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
> >>
> >>> The big problem I have is loosening and tightening the stuffing box
> nut. Just can?t get a good grasp and the leverage.
> >>>
> >>> Winslow
> >>> #283 Tinkers Damn
> >>>
> >>>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:23 AM, americo silva via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> i am contemplating doing like the Albin Vega and making a big Hatch
> Cover
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:04 PM John Brugeman via Public-List <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have a good hedge that I never installed on 306 I mean 305. It?s
> brand
> >>>>> new still in the box. When I get home Monday I can send you a
> picture and
> >>>>> give me the size if you?re interested.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Don Campbell via Public-List <
> >>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ?It is not just about watertight. It is also about the design for
> >>>>> watertight if the boat is hit by a wave and the cockpit filled with
> water.
> >>>>> That includes significant weight in the cockpit and in the boat. It
> will
> >>>>> change the buoyancy of the hull and if that mass leaks into the
> hull, it
> >>>>> will significantly hinder the ability to recover and manoever that
> >>>>> waterlogged hull. The round access fitting is to allow for a wheel
> >>>>> pedestal and access for those cable controls. Sometimes what you
> would like
> >>>>> and what is safe in all circustances is not the same thing. For the
> number
> >>>>> of times one accesses the stuffing box and drive shaft, one can go
> over the
> >>>>> motor, or if things require major work, take the motor out. It takes
> me
> >>>>> about an hour and a half to remove the motor and about 2 1/2 hours
> to put
> >>>>> it back in and realign it. Safety is the main thing here and if the
> boat is
> >>>>> compromised by adding access hatches, then the resale value is much
> less.
> >>>>> There are times when one needs to appreciate the expertise involved
> in
> >>>>> design and then respect that the designer has done things with
> reason and
> >>>>> for safety in all conditions.
> >>>>>> Don Campbell
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
> >>>>>> From: "Winslow Ayer via Public-List" <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >>>>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >>>>>> Cc: "Winslow Ayer" <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> Sent: 2020-06-27 9:51:46 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyone know of a good watertight access hatch to replace the small
> one
> >>>>> in the sole of the cockpit? Would like easier access to the drive
> shaft and
> >>>>> stuffing box. I can reach but not really do a lot without help from
> the
> >>>>> engine side.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Winslow
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> >>>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> >>>>>>> Please support them.
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>>
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 08:44:47 -0400
> > From: Mike Meinhold <meinhold272 at gmail.com>
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>, Don Campbell
> > <dk.campbell at xplornet.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
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> >
> > I installed hasps on the cockpit lockers with the hinge on top, so the
> > plate would hang over the hasp. Then I started having nightmares about
> > being trapped in a locker. I reversed them and sleep better. They should
> > be secured when sailing in any case without relying on gravity !
> >
> > Mike
> > Rinn Duin #272
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 21:54 Don Campbell via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Winslow:
> >> You will find that whatever you do to access the stuffing box
> area,
> >> you will have that trouble of good grasp and leverage.. It will always
> >> be difficult to get two arms in through any opening with any ability to
> >> see as well. And then you will need to have some sort of wrench to help
> >> to get the tension you want on the stuffing box threads so it leaks by
> >> the droplet if you use conventional flax. I found that two small pipe
> >> wrenches could work over the motor. And it you do not like 4 spark plug
> >> indentations on your sternum, you can remove those, but have them
> >> numbered so you get the firing order correct. You could also make flat
> >> wrenches out of 1/8 steel to fit the nuts on the stuffing box, or you
> >> may find some like that that would do in plumbing hardware that
> >> plumbers use for working on traps. I think in the end, you will have
> >> more leverage more easily by going over the motor than one handing it
> >> through access from the lateral lockers. If you do the lateral locker
> >> modification, and get into the locker to "see what you are doing" make
> >> very sure you tie up the lid extra securely before you get in and block
> >> off any way the hasp can catch if the lid closes. Otherwise , you are
> >> trapped in that locker and Safety First is the motto!!
> >> I have been in both the lateral lockers and the lazarette, and
> none
> >> is very comfortable, or easy to manoeuver in, or easy to get out from,
> >> especially if you are of any size over 6 feet tall.
> >> Don
> >>
> >>
> >> Original Message ------
> >> From: "Winslow Ayer via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> >> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> Cc: "Winslow Ayer" <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
> >> Sent: 2020-06-28 9:55:27 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
> >>
> >>> The big problem I have is loosening and tightening the stuffing box
> nut.
> >> Just can?t get a good grasp and the leverage.
> >>>
> >>> Winslow
> >>> #283 Tinkers Damn
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:23 AM, americo silva via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> i am contemplating doing like the Albin Vega and making a big Hatch
> >> Cover
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:04 PM John Brugeman via Public-List <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have a good hedge that I never installed on 306 I mean 305. It?s
> >> brand
> >>>>> new still in the box. When I get home Monday I can send you a
> picture
> >> and
> >>>>> give me the size if you?re interested.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Don Campbell via Public-List <
> >>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ?It is not just about watertight. It is also about the design for
> >>>>> watertight if the boat is hit by a wave and the cockpit filled with
> >> water.
> >>>>> That includes significant weight in the cockpit and in the boat. It
> >> will
> >>>>> change the buoyancy of the hull and if that mass leaks into the
> hull,
> >> it
> >>>>> will significantly hinder the ability to recover and manoever that
> >>>>> waterlogged hull. The round access fitting is to allow for a
> wheel
> >>>>> pedestal and access for those cable controls. Sometimes what you
> >> would like
> >>>>> and what is safe in all circustances is not the same thing. For
> the
> >> number
> >>>>> of times one accesses the stuffing box and drive shaft, one can go
> >> over the
> >>>>> motor, or if things require major work, take the motor out. It
> takes
> >> me
> >>>>> about an hour and a half to remove the motor and about 2 1/2 hours
> to
> >> put
> >>>>> it back in and realign it. Safety is the main thing here and if the
> >> boat is
> >>>>> compromised by adding access hatches, then the resale value is much
> >> less.
> >>>>> There are times when one needs to appreciate the expertise
> involved in
> >>>>> design and then respect that the designer has done things with
> reason
> >> and
> >>>>> for safety in all conditions.
> >>>>>> Don Campbell
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
> >>>>>> From: "Winslow Ayer via Public-List" <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >>>
> >>>>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >>>>>> Cc: "Winslow Ayer" <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> Sent: 2020-06-27 9:51:46 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: [Public-List] Access hatch for cockpit
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyone know of a good watertight access hatch to replace the
> small
> >> one
> >>>>> in the sole of the cockpit? Would like easier access to the drive
> >> shaft and
> >>>>> stuffing box. I can reach but not really do a lot without help from
> >> the
> >>>>> engine side.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Winslow
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