[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 4009, Issue 3
Michael Devonshire
Devonshire at jhpokorny.com
Wed May 20 09:48:33 PDT 2020
Thanks to all for the superb painting info. I can’t imagine having any boat other than an Alberg 30. I looked for 20 years for “her” and every day on her is like heaven. As I first intended, I’m going the DIY route, and I thank you all for the great information.
Mike
Pickle #619
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 20, 2020, at 10:36 AM, Sheldon Shikoluk via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> I used epifanes two part paint on my hull, I brushed on 3 coats and came
> out like a spray job. Great paint!
>
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>> 1. Painting. (Greg Dawson)
>> 2. Re: Hull Painting (George Dinwiddie)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 13:58:31 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Greg Dawson <gregdaws at aol.co.uk>
>> To: "public-list at lists.alberg30.org" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: [Public-List] Painting.
>> Message-ID: <1330159247.1007595.1589896711389 at mail.yahoo.com>
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>> Hi there?
>> I think that the amount of money spent on paint is dependant on what you
>> want and if the boat is to be yours for life. It's the law of diminishing
>> returns. The more you spend, the more you loose when it comes time to sell.
>> I saw a beautiful Alberg for Sale in Oakville last year. No effort had been
>> spared including re masting. The boat went for $12,000 I think. All the
>> work and that's all the owner got for it.?
>>
>> For me it has to be on a budget. I'm doing it myself using roll and tip. I
>> was going to use interlux perfection 2 pac but it isn't available in Canada
>> now. I'll probably go with Epiphanes instead as Gord has piqued my
>> interest. I also have an old hinterhoeller 25 to paint on a shoestring so I
>> may look intothe rustoleum marine.?
>> Thanks for the tips.
>> Greg?#348
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 12:00:15 -0400
>> From: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull Painting
>> Message-ID: <63a1f7da-6866-740d-76f0-f47c7393f6a7 at alberg30.org>
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>> Richard,
>>
>>> I would be happy to share my source materials and experience off line if
>> you?re interested.
>>
>> If you're going to write up your experience, I'd be glad to turn it into
>> a webpage on https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__alberg30.org&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=enM7ScFQvWrcekEYjndveTkrwasULNM_wPIJpHsl3qk&m=GJbo3ntwgc-IXZYyQC2oHUQrF18-eB3Fryy5WbWKkhw&s=gLNGZY80VDRBattXFlCUrlqkYnmt19DRO7shgBxV3Fo&e=.
>>
>> - George
>>
>>> On 5/19/20 9:44 AM, Carla via Public-List wrote:
>>> Mike,
>>> Last spring I painted Quest with Awlgrip in the same Navy Blue that the
>> prior owner had done over 20 years ago. I followed a very thorough DIY
>> article that I had saved from from Good Old Boat from November 2010. The
>> results were indistinguishable from a spray job at anything more than about
>> two feet away. I had to fill some minor gouges and heavily sand some areas
>> where a clear coat topcoat had failed but otherwise it was not very a very
>> physical effort for a retired 66 year old. I did most of the work by
>> myself with my wife assisting only when I needed someone to monitor and add
>> thinner to the paint tray for the 30-45 minutes or so it took to apply each
>> coat coat to the hull.
>>>
>>> There is however one big caveat to following this DIY method,
>> uninterrupted days for the actual painting. Collectively it took me about
>> 40 hours of work over 10 days however six of those days consisted of only
>> wiping down the hull, preparing each of the two coats of primer and four of
>> paint and the 30-45 minutes it took to apply them. If you re-coat the paint
>> within an 18-24 hour window it does not require re-sanding the hull between
>> coats. I would be happy to share my source materials and experience off
>> line if you?re interested. I too agonized over having it done
>> professionally but decided to take it on once I retired and had the luxury
>> of time. The job was easier and the results better than I had anticipated.
>>> Richard Hazlegrove
>>> Quest 433
>>> Mobjack Bay, VA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 19, 2020, at 8:15 AM, public-list-request at lists.alberg30.org
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>>>> 1. Re: Hull painting (Michael)
>>>> 2. Re: Hull painting (Phil H)
>>>> 3. Re: Hull painting (Gordon Laco)
>>>> 4. Re: Hull painting (Jay Davenport)
>>>> 5. Re: Hull painting (Michael Devonshire)
>>>> 6. Re: Hull painting (Jonathan Bresler)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 11:08:23 +0000
>>>> From: Michael <dickdurk at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
>>>> Message-ID: <em3f789867-c48d-4479-a7f4-716c2aa9336d at windows-4mp6ooi>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8
>>>>
>>>> Show quality paint jobs for cars can be that much, so reasonable is very
>>>> much subjective. To me, DIY is what is reasonable for a sailboat. I have
>>>> done Checkmate several times with a linear urethane roll and tip, in
>>>> black (shows the most imperfections), for labor (mine and Karen's) and a
>>>> few hundred dollars, and have been happy-but I am not a perfectionist.
>>>> It's about time for another go (it's about 15 years between coats) and
>>>> am reconsidering the urethane thing. This spring I painted another boat
>>>> (a center console) with brightside. It's nicely shiny, less complex
>>>> application, and touching up is simple, if it comes to that. Brushing
>>>> liquid made it flow out, it looks sprayed.
>>>> my .02
>>>> MichaelGrosh
>>>> #220
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 08:19:20 -0300
>>>> From: Phil H <cphopewell at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CALdV00ViNDf7tSTPiSE+j16SR07RSMfmfVR-tneQEUnY1Dzk1w at mail.gmail.com
>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>>
>>>> Seems like a pretty penny to get your Pickle painted
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 10:52 PM Michael Devonshire via Public-List <
>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps you can all give me a reality check. I recently received an
>>>>> estimate for having my hull painted awl. The quote was $20k. Is this
>>>>> reasonable?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mike D
>>>>> Pickle #619
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 07:36:52 -0400
>>>> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
>>>> To: Michael <dickdurk at gmail.com>, Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
>>>> Message-ID: <4C421E32-F2B4-47E3-BC15-DC3698B6C29F at csolve.net>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> Hello again -
>>>>
>>>> If you use Epifanes two part polyurethane, you can do a better job that
>> spraying by rolling (no tipping) yourself. Or you can have a professional
>> roll it.
>>>>
>>>> How badly damaged are your topsides now?
>>>>
>>>> Gordon Laco
>>>> 426 Surprise
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 19, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Michael via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Show quality paint jobs for cars can be that much, so reasonable is
>> very much subjective. To me, DIY is what is reasonable for a sailboat. I
>> have done Checkmate several times with a linear urethane roll and tip, in
>> black (shows the most imperfections), for labor (mine and Karen's) and a
>> few hundred dollars, and have been happy-but I am not a perfectionist. It's
>> about time for another go (it's about 15 years between coats) and am
>> reconsidering the urethane thing. This spring I painted another boat (a
>> center console) with brightside. It's nicely shiny, less complex
>> application, and touching up is simple, if it comes to that. Brushing
>> liquid made it flow out, it looks sprayed.
>>>>> my .02
>>>>> MichaelGrosh
>>>>> #220
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 11:53:22 +0000 (UTC)
>>>> From: Jay Davenport <jay at saildriver.com>
>>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
>>>> Message-ID: <883901356.962154.1589889202702 at mail.yahoo.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>>
>>>> Mike,
>>>> A few years ago, I got quotes to have my A30 Awlgripped. The prior
>> Awlgrip was almost 20 years old.
>>>> A top yard in Annapolis quoted $10,000. They would drop the mast and do
>> the work in a climate controlled building.
>>>> A small yard in the southern bay quoted $2,500. They would tent the
>> boat while painting.
>>>> I ended up having the old Awlgrip buffed for $200., and it now looks
>> almost as good as new.
>>>> A friend of mine paints his own boat periodically with Brightside, and
>> is happy with the results. It looks good.
>>>> Check your options, they may surprise you.
>>>> Jay DavenportRevolution, A30 #526?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:02:19 PM EDT, Gordon Laco via
>> Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Mike -
>>>>
>>>> The cost of painting your topsides depends on how much repair work
>> needs to be done in the prep stage.
>>>>
>>>> I had Surprise painted for $7,000 taxes in, which included collision
>> damage resulting from being rammed.
>>>>
>>>> If you write to me off list perhaps I can help.?
>>>>
>>>> Gordon Laco
>>>> 426 Surprise
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 18, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Michael Devonshire via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps you can all give me a reality check. I recently received an
>> estimate for having my hull painted awl. The quote was $20k. Is this
>> reasonable?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mike D
>>>>> Pickle #619
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
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>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 12:06:26 +0000
>>>> From: Michael Devonshire <Devonshire at jhpokorny.com>
>>>> To: Jay Davenport <jay at saildriver.com>, Alberg 30 Public List -- open
>>>> to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
>>>> Message-ID: <09C8A7F2-FC72-4EA2-B237-D713E1B88059 at jhpokorny.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>
>>>> Lol!
>>>> Well it?s about twice what I paid for her.
>>>> My bagpipe teacher said to me last year,
>>>> ?I never thought I?d say this to another man, but I can?t wait to ride
>> on your Pickle?.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On May 19, 2020, at 7:53 AM, Jay Davenport via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Mike,
>>>>> A few years ago, I got quotes to have my A30 Awlgripped. The prior
>> Awlgrip was almost 20 years old.
>>>>> A top yard in Annapolis quoted $10,000. They would drop the mast and
>> do the work in a climate controlled building.
>>>>> A small yard in the southern bay quoted $2,500. They would tent the
>> boat while painting.
>>>>> I ended up having the old Awlgrip buffed for $200., and it now looks
>> almost as good as new.
>>>>> A friend of mine paints his own boat periodically with Brightside, and
>> is happy with the results. It looks good.
>>>>> Check your options, they may surprise you.
>>>>> Jay DavenportRevolution, A30 #526
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:02:19 PM EDT, Gordon Laco via
>> Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Mike -
>>>>>
>>>>> The cost of painting your topsides depends on how much repair work
>> needs to be done in the prep stage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had Surprise painted for $7,000 taxes in, which included collision
>> damage resulting from being rammed.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you write to me off list perhaps I can help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gordon Laco
>>>>> 426 Surprise
>>>>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gordonlaco.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=enM7ScFQvWrcekEYjndveTkrwasULNM_wPIJpHsl3qk&m=AIxxXSjWJ0mzaAbcFN7i4EW58-QKHiGcoL2sTXHtV4g&s=zWwij8YecwlmW7N5CWAv3_ZWBo15nmC_tx_g3Fi4jMg&e=
>> <
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>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 18, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Michael Devonshire via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps you can all give me a reality check. I recently received an
>> estimate for having my hull painted awl. The quote was $20k. Is this
>> reasonable?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Mike D
>>>>>> Pickle #619
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
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>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 6
>>>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 08:14:43 -0400
>>>> From: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CAHEe8TuG2735_rDk00SHq2cjB1JTZ0PWZcpDY-GRzV5nRCF9nw at mail.gmail.com
>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Jonathan Adams, like Michael Grosh, paints the topside (and bottom)
>>>> of his boat. The results as very nice. Brian Palmer paints his and
>>>> produces a wonderful result.
>>>>
>>>> Each of them may be on the list here.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:06 AM Michael Devonshire via Public-List <
>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lol!
>>>>> Well it?s about twice what I paid for her.
>>>>> My bagpipe teacher said to me last year,
>>>>> ?I never thought I?d say this to another man, but I can?t wait to ride
>> on
>>>>> your Pickle?.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 19, 2020, at 7:53 AM, Jay Davenport via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Mike,
>>>>>> A few years ago, I got quotes to have my A30 Awlgripped. The prior
>>>>> Awlgrip was almost 20 years old.
>>>>>> A top yard in Annapolis quoted $10,000. They would drop the mast and
>> do
>>>>> the work in a climate controlled building.
>>>>>> A small yard in the southern bay quoted $2,500. They would tent the
>> boat
>>>>> while painting.
>>>>>> I ended up having the old Awlgrip buffed for $200., and it now looks
>>>>> almost as good as new.
>>>>>> A friend of mine paints his own boat periodically with Brightside, and
>>>>> is happy with the results. It looks good.
>>>>>> Check your options, they may surprise you.
>>>>>> Jay DavenportRevolution, A30 #526
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:02:19 PM EDT, Gordon Laco via
>> Public-List
>>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Mike -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The cost of painting your topsides depends on how much repair work
>> needs
>>>>> to be done in the prep stage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had Surprise painted for $7,000 taxes in, which included collision
>>>>> damage resulting from being rammed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you write to me off list perhaps I can help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gordon Laco
>>>>>> 426 Surprise
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> <
>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 18, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Michael Devonshire via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps you can all give me a reality check. I recently received an
>>>>> estimate for having my hull painted awl. The quote was $20k. Is this
>>>>> reasonable?
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Mike D
>>>>>>> Pickle #619
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> End of Public-List Digest, Vol 4009, Issue 1
>>>> ********************************************
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>> When I remember bygone days George Dinwiddie
>> I think how evening follows morn; gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
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>> So many I love were not yet born. also see:
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>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
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>> Subject: Digest Footer
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>> ------------------------------
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>> End of Public-List Digest, Vol 4009, Issue 3
>> ********************************************
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