[Public-List] Hull Painting
George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
Tue May 19 09:00:15 PDT 2020
Richard,
> I would be happy to share my source materials and experience off line if you’re interested.
If you're going to write up your experience, I'd be glad to turn it into
a webpage on alberg30.org.
- George
On 5/19/20 9:44 AM, Carla via Public-List wrote:
> Mike,
> Last spring I painted Quest with Awlgrip in the same Navy Blue that the prior owner had done over 20 years ago. I followed a very thorough DIY article that I had saved from from Good Old Boat from November 2010. The results were indistinguishable from a spray job at anything more than about two feet away. I had to fill some minor gouges and heavily sand some areas where a clear coat topcoat had failed but otherwise it was not very a very physical effort for a retired 66 year old. I did most of the work by myself with my wife assisting only when I needed someone to monitor and add thinner to the paint tray for the 30-45 minutes or so it took to apply each coat coat to the hull.
>
> There is however one big caveat to following this DIY method, uninterrupted days for the actual painting. Collectively it took me about 40 hours of work over 10 days however six of those days consisted of only wiping down the hull, preparing each of the two coats of primer and four of paint and the 30-45 minutes it took to apply them. If you re-coat the paint within an 18-24 hour window it does not require re-sanding the hull between coats. I would be happy to share my source materials and experience off line if you’re interested. I too agonized over having it done professionally but decided to take it on once I retired and had the luxury of time. The job was easier and the results better than I had anticipated.
> Richard Hazlegrove
> Quest 433
> Mobjack Bay, VA.
>
>
>
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>> 1. Re: Hull painting (Michael)
>> 2. Re: Hull painting (Phil H)
>> 3. Re: Hull painting (Gordon Laco)
>> 4. Re: Hull painting (Jay Davenport)
>> 5. Re: Hull painting (Michael Devonshire)
>> 6. Re: Hull painting (Jonathan Bresler)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 11:08:23 +0000
>> From: Michael <dickdurk at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
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>> Show quality paint jobs for cars can be that much, so reasonable is very
>> much subjective. To me, DIY is what is reasonable for a sailboat. I have
>> done Checkmate several times with a linear urethane roll and tip, in
>> black (shows the most imperfections), for labor (mine and Karen's) and a
>> few hundred dollars, and have been happy-but I am not a perfectionist.
>> It's about time for another go (it's about 15 years between coats) and
>> am reconsidering the urethane thing. This spring I painted another boat
>> (a center console) with brightside. It's nicely shiny, less complex
>> application, and touching up is simple, if it comes to that. Brushing
>> liquid made it flow out, it looks sprayed.
>> my .02
>> MichaelGrosh
>> #220
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 08:19:20 -0300
>> From: Phil H <cphopewell at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
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>> Seems like a pretty penny to get your Pickle painted
>>
>> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 10:52 PM Michael Devonshire via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps you can all give me a reality check. I recently received an
>>> estimate for having my hull painted awl. The quote was $20k. Is this
>>> reasonable?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike D
>>> Pickle #619
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 07:36:52 -0400
>> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
>> To: Michael <dickdurk at gmail.com>, Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
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>> Hello again -
>>
>> If you use Epifanes two part polyurethane, you can do a better job that spraying by rolling (no tipping) yourself. Or you can have a professional roll it.
>>
>> How badly damaged are your topsides now?
>>
>> Gordon Laco
>> 426 Surprise
>> www.gordonlaco.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 19, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Michael via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Show quality paint jobs for cars can be that much, so reasonable is very much subjective. To me, DIY is what is reasonable for a sailboat. I have done Checkmate several times with a linear urethane roll and tip, in black (shows the most imperfections), for labor (mine and Karen's) and a few hundred dollars, and have been happy-but I am not a perfectionist. It's about time for another go (it's about 15 years between coats) and am reconsidering the urethane thing. This spring I painted another boat (a center console) with brightside. It's nicely shiny, less complex application, and touching up is simple, if it comes to that. Brushing liquid made it flow out, it looks sprayed.
>>> my .02
>>> MichaelGrosh
>>> #220
>>>
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>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 11:53:22 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Jay Davenport <jay at saildriver.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
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>> Mike,
>> A few years ago, I got quotes to have my A30 Awlgripped. The prior Awlgrip was almost 20 years old.
>> A top yard in Annapolis quoted $10,000. They would drop the mast and do the work in a climate controlled building.
>> A small yard in the southern bay quoted $2,500. They would tent the boat while painting.
>> I ended up having the old Awlgrip buffed for $200., and it now looks almost as good as new.
>> A friend of mine paints his own boat periodically with Brightside, and is happy with the results. It looks good.
>> Check your options, they may surprise you.
>> Jay DavenportRevolution, A30 #526?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:02:19 PM EDT, Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Mike -
>>
>> The cost of painting your topsides depends on how much repair work needs to be done in the prep stage.
>>
>> I had Surprise painted for $7,000 taxes in, which included collision damage resulting from being rammed.
>>
>> If you write to me off list perhaps I can help.?
>>
>> Gordon Laco
>> 426 Surprise
>> www.gordonlaco.com <http://www.gordonlaco.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 18, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Michael Devonshire via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps you can all give me a reality check. I recently received an estimate for having my hull painted awl. The quote was $20k. Is this reasonable?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike D
>>> Pickle #619
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 12:06:26 +0000
>> From: Michael Devonshire <Devonshire at jhpokorny.com>
>> To: Jay Davenport <jay at saildriver.com>, Alberg 30 Public List -- open
>> to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
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>> Lol!
>> Well it?s about twice what I paid for her.
>> My bagpipe teacher said to me last year,
>> ?I never thought I?d say this to another man, but I can?t wait to ride on your Pickle?.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On May 19, 2020, at 7:53 AM, Jay Davenport via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Mike,
>>> A few years ago, I got quotes to have my A30 Awlgripped. The prior Awlgrip was almost 20 years old.
>>> A top yard in Annapolis quoted $10,000. They would drop the mast and do the work in a climate controlled building.
>>> A small yard in the southern bay quoted $2,500. They would tent the boat while painting.
>>> I ended up having the old Awlgrip buffed for $200., and it now looks almost as good as new.
>>> A friend of mine paints his own boat periodically with Brightside, and is happy with the results. It looks good.
>>> Check your options, they may surprise you.
>>> Jay DavenportRevolution, A30 #526
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:02:19 PM EDT, Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Mike -
>>>
>>> The cost of painting your topsides depends on how much repair work needs to be done in the prep stage.
>>>
>>> I had Surprise painted for $7,000 taxes in, which included collision damage resulting from being rammed.
>>>
>>> If you write to me off list perhaps I can help.
>>>
>>> Gordon Laco
>>> 426 Surprise
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gordonlaco.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=enM7ScFQvWrcekEYjndveTkrwasULNM_wPIJpHsl3qk&m=AIxxXSjWJ0mzaAbcFN7i4EW58-QKHiGcoL2sTXHtV4g&s=zWwij8YecwlmW7N5CWAv3_ZWBo15nmC_tx_g3Fi4jMg&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gordonlaco.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=enM7ScFQvWrcekEYjndveTkrwasULNM_wPIJpHsl3qk&m=AIxxXSjWJ0mzaAbcFN7i4EW58-QKHiGcoL2sTXHtV4g&s=KUQWk0TPVGtepkLkiLZXI4JCORRblTVPH8HKjELX2jM&e=>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On May 18, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Michael Devonshire via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you can all give me a reality check. I recently received an estimate for having my hull painted awl. The quote was $20k. Is this reasonable?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike D
>>>> Pickle #619
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 08:14:43 -0400
>> From: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hull painting
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>> Jonathan Adams, like Michael Grosh, paints the topside (and bottom)
>> of his boat. The results as very nice. Brian Palmer paints his and
>> produces a wonderful result.
>>
>> Each of them may be on the list here.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:06 AM Michael Devonshire via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Lol!
>>> Well it?s about twice what I paid for her.
>>> My bagpipe teacher said to me last year,
>>> ?I never thought I?d say this to another man, but I can?t wait to ride on
>>> your Pickle?.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 19, 2020, at 7:53 AM, Jay Davenport via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?Mike,
>>>> A few years ago, I got quotes to have my A30 Awlgripped. The prior
>>> Awlgrip was almost 20 years old.
>>>> A top yard in Annapolis quoted $10,000. They would drop the mast and do
>>> the work in a climate controlled building.
>>>> A small yard in the southern bay quoted $2,500. They would tent the boat
>>> while painting.
>>>> I ended up having the old Awlgrip buffed for $200., and it now looks
>>> almost as good as new.
>>>> A friend of mine paints his own boat periodically with Brightside, and
>>> is happy with the results. It looks good.
>>>> Check your options, they may surprise you.
>>>> Jay DavenportRevolution, A30 #526
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:02:19 PM EDT, Gordon Laco via Public-List
>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Mike -
>>>>
>>>> The cost of painting your topsides depends on how much repair work needs
>>> to be done in the prep stage.
>>>>
>>>> I had Surprise painted for $7,000 taxes in, which included collision
>>> damage resulting from being rammed.
>>>>
>>>> If you write to me off list perhaps I can help.
>>>>
>>>> Gordon Laco
>>>> 426 Surprise
>>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gordonlaco.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=enM7ScFQvWrcekEYjndveTkrwasULNM_wPIJpHsl3qk&m=AIxxXSjWJ0mzaAbcFN7i4EW58-QKHiGcoL2sTXHtV4g&s=zWwij8YecwlmW7N5CWAv3_ZWBo15nmC_tx_g3Fi4jMg&e=
>>> <
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 18, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Michael Devonshire via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps you can all give me a reality check. I recently received an
>>> estimate for having my hull painted awl. The quote was $20k. Is this
>>> reasonable?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mike D
>>>>> Pickle #619
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
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>>> <
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>>>> Please support them.
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>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> --
>> Jonathan M Bresler
>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
>>
>>
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>>
>> Subject: Digest Footer
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> Please support them.
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>> End of Public-List Digest, Vol 4009, Issue 1
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> _______________________________________________
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> Please support them.
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