[Public-List] Not quite a Misery Cruise...

[Gordon Laco]

Very interesting... thanks 

G

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> On Oct 16, 2020, at 1:44 AM, Penn Hackney via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> Straying from sailing, I cannot resist suggesting that the shifting of Thanksgiving has given rise to urban legends.  Here’s from The History Channel summarizing the changes from Washington through Lincoln to F.D.R.:
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> https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fdr-establishes-modern-thanksgiving-holiday
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> And with a bit more nuance Including the business interests involved, from National Public Radio: 
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> https://www.npr.org/2019/11/28/782903637/why-we-celebrate-thanksgiving-on-the-4th-thursday-of-november
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> —
> Penn Hackney
> Pittsburgh, PA
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Kris Coward via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>> 
>> I thought 1944 was when they moved it from the last Thursday to the 4th
>> Thursday of November, to give said retail lobby an extra week of
>> Christmas shopping in the years where November ends on a Thursday or
>> Friday. I'm a little blurrier on the transition from October to
>> November, and where that fell relative to the change from the date being
>> a state-by-state thing to it being the same nationwide. But yeah, it
>> wasn't always November, and the retail lobby certainly had its fingers
>> in the setting of the current date back in 1944.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Kris
>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 06:29:00PM -0400, Gordon Laco via Public-List wrote:
>>> Hello Marcelo…
>>> The original American thanksgiving in Massachusetts happened between the middle of September and the middle of October… harvest time.  We don’t know the exact date.  A similar event happened in the same era in Quebec at the settlement there, also about the same dates… harvest time.  
>>> The US and Canada used various dates over the decades, and both used the same one on the second weekend in October until 1944 when the US date was moved back a month, as I wrote below, to accommodate department story lobbyists who wanted a kick off date more convenient for Christmas shopping sales.   1944 wasn’t really all that long ago, but people forget such things quickly.
>>> I’ve just re-read Vito Duma’s story of his great voyage…  I hope he’s still remembered in Argentinia as the great seaman he was.   Do you know if his yacht Gaucho is still preserved?
>>> Gordon Laco
>>> www.gordonlaco.com
>>>>> On Oct 15, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Marcelo