[Public-List] Twings and In-haulers

[Gordon Laco]

OH NO I GOT THE EARS WRONG…. PLEASE READ CORRECTED VERSON BELOW… SORRY!
Gordon Laco
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> On Apr 20, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> I used to know a Hungarian fellow who was an engineer… when we were discussing rigging issues for the brigantines I operated, sometimes in meetings he’d catch my eye across the table, and slowly reach his right arm over his head and in a theatrical way scratch his LEFT ear.
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> After the meeting at which he first did that, I asked him what it was all about.  
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> He said (imagine a Hungarian accent)  Gord, the correct manner which one should scratch ones right ear is like this (he scratched he right ear with his right hand)  Those fellows are trying to do it like this (reaches over his head again with the wrong arm.)
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> Sometimes the traditional way is the best way…particularly with rigging.
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> Gordon Laco
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>> On Apr 20, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Don Campbell via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>> Hi Greg:
>>   If you change to the rings etc. you will no longer  have a one design boat, and knowing what most traditional sailors know about sailing, they will find the rings more difficult to sail with than an adjustable track car. That system does not allow for easy sail adjustment short of either changing ring position if you have a snap shackle attachment or rethreading the sheet, for changing wind speeds, especially  if you need to either really bag the sail in lighter air or really flatten it in heavy air or adjust the car for a spinnaker or blooper twinge control line. However, teh controls and sheet placement on that class of boat as you describe it makes for a one design class as long as no one installs reacks!
>>   If you watched any of the America's Cup, the sail adjustment was infinite but by millimeters and all on tracks or the equivalent. You cannot do that with the rings. The adjustment is from padeye to padeye. Sometimes, newer ideas are not any better than the tried and true.
>>   But, there is nothing wrong or bad about dynema for sheets, except if your winches wear the lines, then it is expensive.
>>   If you do go to the rings, keep the tracks for the next owner because he will probably want them for two reasons: it will still be a class one design boat and they are easier to adjust a finer sail set quickly, especially for racing.
>> Don
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>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Greg Roberts via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
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>> Cc: "Greg Roberts" <greg at midnight-oil.us>
>> Sent: 2021-04-18 3:21:29 PM
>> Subject: [Public-List] Twings and In-haulers
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>>> Hi Folks,I crew on a 27' Seascape that doesn't have any tracks. It
>>> uses low friction rings and control lines to set the headsail sheeting
>>> angle. I know the concept has been around a long time but seems to
>>> have come back around with the low friction rings and dyneema lines.
>>> Has anyone tried this with our boat? I've pulled my toe rail and am in
>>> the process of getting ready to replace it. I wouldn't mind not
>>> reinstalling the track. I really like the simplicity of the
>>> components: lines, rings, and padeyes. I still have the original
>>> track, cars, and blocks so this isn't a cost question.
>>> Regards,
>>> Greg
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