[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 4114, Issue 3
charles pleisse
velocharles1 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 4 08:42:07 PST 2021
I've initialized a survey of interested parties on FB.
Charles Pleisse
College Park Bicycles
( <http://www.bike123.com>301)864-2211
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 11:40 AM charles pleisse <velocharles1 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> For the sake of anybody who may be interested, could someone with a clear
> example of one of these post an image.
>
>
> Charles Pleisse
> College Park Bicycles
> ( <http://www.bike123.com>301)864-2211
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>
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: Liability Insurance (Jay Davenport)
>> 2. Re: Reproduction Builder's plates (Kris Coward)
>> 3. Re: Reproduction Builder's plates (Roy Jarnagin)
>> 4. Re: Reproduction Builder's plates (John Irving)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 21:22:15 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Jay Davenport <jay at saildriver.com>
>> To: "public-list at lists.alberg30.org" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Cc: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Liability Insurance
>> Message-ID: <1803125155.1533104.1612387335272 at mail.yahoo.com>
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>> Allstate has been insuring my 1973 boat for the last 28 years, but I may
>> be grandfathered. I don't know if they are currently taking on older boats.
>> In any case, their premiums and service on claims have been good, and they
>> include $500. in towing insurance.
>> Jay?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 03:50:49 PM EST, George Dinwiddie via
>> Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>> Another company, which I've not seen mentioned here, is Gowrie Group.
>> They acquired IMIS which was an independent marine insurance broker
>> started by Al Golden, whom I met through the CompuServe sailing forum.
>>
>> It's hard to say how good they are, since I've never made a claim. You
>> can find them at https://www.gowrie.com/Marine-Insurance/IMIS.aspx
>>
>> ? - George
>>
>> On 2/3/21 8:38 AM, P Seidel via Public-List wrote:
>> >? As a data point, USAA/Progressive and BoatUS/Geico will not insure a
>> boat built before 1965.? Erie and State Farm will.? I just ran into this
>> with trying to insure the #8 boat.
>> >? ? ? On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 08:28:55 AM EST, Mike Lehman via
>> Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> >?
>> >? We are very pleased with Erie
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:16 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Al,
>> >>
>> >> Congratulations on finding an Alberg 30!
>> >> You may wish to check with Progressive or
>> >> USAA.
>> >>
>> >> Which Alberg 30 you are considering?
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 6:56 PM Alexander Mitchell via Public-List <
>> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hey all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am looking at purchasing an A30 here in the midwest, and am 98% of
>> the
>> >>> way ready to say yes, pending a few last things.? The marina says I
>> need
>> >>> liability insurance, but Geico/ Boat US won't insure anything that old
>> >>> (1965).
>> >>>
>> >>> Any recommendations?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks in advance,
>> >>> Al
>> >>>
>> >>> --
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>> >>> 815-579-4968
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 19:25:09 -0500
>> From: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>
>> To: Mike Lehman via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
>> Message-ID: <20210204002508.urbuqi6tajdo3j7m at melon.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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>>
>> Do you still have the image of the plate that was sent for the previous
>> run of them? Possibly also dimensions?
>>
>> In a conversation off-list with a few people who'd expressed interest, I
>> brought up having found some good indications that hitting anodized
>> aluminum with a CO2 laser (of the sort you can find at most
>> hackerspaces/makerspaces, and that a decent assortment of hobbyists also
>> have at home) burns off the dye in the anodization, leaving bright (but
>> I imagine still anodized) metal.
>>
>> Basically this means that if you've got a suitably sized and coloured
>> piece of anodized sheet/plate, and an image file, there's a decent
>> change that you can find a hackerspace, makerspace, or hobbyist with a
>> laser and a willingness to help you out to make your own plate with no
>> minimum order size.
>>
>> I don't know where to find such a laser around the Chesapeake, but for
>> Albergers close to Toronto, I know that Hacklab and Site 3 each have
>> such a laser, can't quite remember if the Toronto Public Library has one
>> (or if they've just got 3d printers), strongly suspect that the Toronto
>> Tool Library has one, and I've got some friends around High Park who
>> have one at home (and know of 2 more home lasers belonging to friends
>> who live up in Deep River). I imagine that they're not that much scarcer
>> around Maryland.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kris
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 03:18:50PM -0500, Mike Lehman via Public-List
>> wrote:
>> > Jim and I did this project as a team, I'll check the inventory but I am
>> > pretty sure it is depleted. I remember ordering them and may have a
>> record
>> > from where in Baltimore. What I distinctly remember was the minimum
>> order
>> > was 1,000 plates.
>> >
>> > Mike Lehman
>> > ~~~_/)_/)~~_/)~~~
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 3:13 PM Michael via Public-List <
>> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Jim Menucci was the ramrod for that offering; he is gone now. I don't
>> > > know where his source was.
>> > >
>> > > Michael Grosh
>> > > #220
>> > >
>> > > ------ Original Message ------
>> > > From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> > > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>> > > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> > > Cc: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
>> > > Sent: 2/1/2021 2:44:22 PM
>> > > Subject: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
>> > >
>> > > >Hello friends,
>> > > >
>> > > >Forgive me if this has been covered already? but are there still
>> > > reproduction builder?s plates for our boats available from the
>> Association?
>> > > >
>> > > >I?d be interested in one myself? ours has long since had the blue
>> > > printing worn off?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Gordon Laco
>> > > >426 Surprise
>> > > >www.gordonlaco.com
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >_______________________________________________
>> > > >These businesses support your Association:
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>> > > >Please support them.
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>> > > _______________________________________________
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>> --
>> Kris Coward http://unripe.melon.org/
>> GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733 830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 20:06:19 -0600
>> From: "Roy Jarnagin" <roy.jarnagin at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'"
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
>> Message-ID: <000e01d6fa9a$5495f670$fdc1e350$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> You might check out the site frontpanelexpress.com. I have used them to
>> make panels for electronic equipment and have been pleased with the results.
>>
>> Roy Jarnagin
>>
>> Southern Serenity #72
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kris Coward via Public-List
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 6:25 PM
>> To: Mike Lehman via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Cc: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
>>
>>
>> Do you still have the image of the plate that was sent for the previous
>> run of them? Possibly also dimensions?
>>
>> In a conversation off-list with a few people who'd expressed interest, I
>> brought up having found some good indications that hitting anodized
>> aluminum with a CO2 laser (of the sort you can find at most
>> hackerspaces/makerspaces, and that a decent assortment of hobbyists also
>> have at home) burns off the dye in the anodization, leaving bright (but I
>> imagine still anodized) metal.
>>
>> Basically this means that if you've got a suitably sized and coloured
>> piece of anodized sheet/plate, and an image file, there's a decent change
>> that you can find a hackerspace, makerspace, or hobbyist with a laser and a
>> willingness to help you out to make your own plate with no minimum order
>> size.
>>
>> I don't know where to find such a laser around the Chesapeake, but for
>> Albergers close to Toronto, I know that Hacklab and Site 3 each have such a
>> laser, can't quite remember if the Toronto Public Library has one (or if
>> they've just got 3d printers), strongly suspect that the Toronto Tool
>> Library has one, and I've got some friends around High Park who have one at
>> home (and know of 2 more home lasers belonging to friends who live up in
>> Deep River). I imagine that they're not that much scarcer around Maryland.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kris
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 03:18:50PM -0500, Mike Lehman via Public-List
>> wrote:
>> > Jim and I did this project as a team, I'll check the inventory but I
>> > am pretty sure it is depleted. I remember ordering them and may have a
>> > record from where in Baltimore. What I distinctly remember was the
>> > minimum order was 1,000 plates.
>> >
>> > Mike Lehman
>> > ~~~_/)_/)~~_/)~~~
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 3:13 PM Michael via Public-List <
>> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Jim Menucci was the ramrod for that offering; he is gone now. I
>> > > don't know where his source was.
>> > >
>> > > Michael Grosh
>> > > #220
>> > >
>> > > ------ Original Message ------
>> > > From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> > > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>> > > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> > > Cc: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
>> > > Sent: 2/1/2021 2:44:22 PM
>> > > Subject: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
>> > >
>> > > >Hello friends,
>> > > >
>> > > >Forgive me if this has been covered already? but are there still
>> > > reproduction builder?s plates for our boats available from the
>> Association?
>> > > >
>> > > >I?d be interested in one myself? ours has long since had the blue
>> > > printing worn off?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Gordon Laco
>> > > >426 Surprise
>> > > >www.gordonlaco.com
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >_______________________________________________
>> > > >These businesses support your Association:
>> > > >http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>> > > >Please support them.
>> > > >_______________________________________________
>> > > >Public-List mailing list
>> > > >Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
>> > > >http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > These businesses support your Association:
>> > > http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>> > > Please support them.
>> > > _______________________________________________
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>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> --
>> Kris Coward http://unripe.melon.org/
>> GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733 830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 21:49:59 -0500
>> From: John Irving <jirvingvt at gmail.com>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
>> Message-ID: <6A607ACE-D4A6-448A-976B-9565D32D6DDC at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> I?d be interested in a builder?s plate for Scotch Bonnet. How much are
>> they?
>>
>> > On Feb 3, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Roy Jarnagin via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?You might check out the site frontpanelexpress.com. I have used them
>> to make panels for electronic equipment and have been pleased with the
>> results.
>> >
>> > Roy Jarnagin
>> >
>> > Southern Serenity #72
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kris Coward via Public-List
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 6:25 PM
>> > To: Mike Lehman via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> > Cc: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
>> >
>> >
>> > Do you still have the image of the plate that was sent for the previous
>> run of them? Possibly also dimensions?
>> >
>> > In a conversation off-list with a few people who'd expressed interest,
>> I brought up having found some good indications that hitting anodized
>> aluminum with a CO2 laser (of the sort you can find at most
>> hackerspaces/makerspaces, and that a decent assortment of hobbyists also
>> have at home) burns off the dye in the anodization, leaving bright (but I
>> imagine still anodized) metal.
>> >
>> > Basically this means that if you've got a suitably sized and coloured
>> piece of anodized sheet/plate, and an image file, there's a decent change
>> that you can find a hackerspace, makerspace, or hobbyist with a laser and a
>> willingness to help you out to make your own plate with no minimum order
>> size.
>> >
>> > I don't know where to find such a laser around the Chesapeake, but for
>> Albergers close to Toronto, I know that Hacklab and Site 3 each have such a
>> laser, can't quite remember if the Toronto Public Library has one (or if
>> they've just got 3d printers), strongly suspect that the Toronto Tool
>> Library has one, and I've got some friends around High Park who have one at
>> home (and know of 2 more home lasers belonging to friends who live up in
>> Deep River). I imagine that they're not that much scarcer around Maryland.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Kris
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 03:18:50PM -0500, Mike Lehman via Public-List
>> wrote:
>> >> Jim and I did this project as a team, I'll check the inventory but I
>> >> am pretty sure it is depleted. I remember ordering them and may have a
>> >> record from where in Baltimore. What I distinctly remember was the
>> >> minimum order was 1,000 plates.
>> >>
>> >> Mike Lehman
>> >> ~~~_/)_/)~~_/)~~~
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 3:13 PM Michael via Public-List <
>> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Jim Menucci was the ramrod for that offering; he is gone now. I
>> >>> don't know where his source was.
>> >>>
>> >>> Michael Grosh
>> >>> #220
>> >>>
>> >>> ------ Original Message ------
>> >>> From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> >>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>> >>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> >>> Cc: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
>> >>> Sent: 2/1/2021 2:44:22 PM
>> >>> Subject: [Public-List] Reproduction Builder's plates
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hello friends,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Forgive me if this has been covered already? but are there still
>> >>> reproduction builder?s plates for our boats available from the
>> Association?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I?d be interested in one myself? ours has long since had the blue
>> >>> printing worn off?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Gordon Laco
>> >>>> 426 Surprise
>> >>>> www.gordonlaco.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> These businesses support your Association:
>> >>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>> >>>> Please support them.
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Public-List mailing list
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>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> These businesses support your Association:
>> >>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>> >>> Please support them.
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>> > --
>> > Kris Coward http://unripe.melon.org/
>> > GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733 830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
>> _______________________________________________
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