[Public-List] interior varnish

Fri Jun 4 09:59:34 PDT 2021

Jonathan -- Inside the boat, satin or rubbed effect is best from my perspective, as it creates a warm feel. I used Interlux satin on the cabin sole. All of the other interior teak on my pre-liner boat is oiled. 

Matt
Friendship 295

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Today's Topics:

   1. Butyl Tape (John Maliszewski)
   2. Re: Butyl Tape (Winslow Ayer)
   3. Re: David Terrell's Dodger/Bimini Design. (Greg Hounsell)
   4. Re: David Terrell's Dodger/Bimini Design. (Marcelo D. Gentinetta)
   5. Varnish ? Finishing Interior Wood (Jonathan Bresler)
   6. Re:  Varnish ? Finishing Interior Wood (Michael Connolly)
   7. Re:  Varnish ? Finishing Interior Wood (Michael Devonshire)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 16:46:11 -0400
From: John Maliszewski <vzjrmalis at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Public-List] Butyl Tape
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It has been about nine years since I bedded all my GulfStar 37 porthole frames with butyl tape. The butyl tape I used still remains soft and pliable, although it has formed a slight outer skin at perhaps .005 inches level. My original logic for choosing butyl was that I anticipated replacing my inside teak paneling that was installed all the way to the ports and wanted to make sure that I could remove the port's frames easily when I got around to replacing the teak. My ports are mounted from the inside. Well nine years later I have absolutely dry ports and no new paneling. I can still see the butyl squeeze outs, from under the port frames and can confirm that they are pliable.
During the original installation I was generous with the butyl and placed a full ribbon against the port frame before inserting the port into its opening. The key to good installation  is to make sure that you see butyl squeezing out as you tighten the mounting screws and then to go back in a couple of days later and continue with another 1/4 turn on your bolts, I repeated this process at least two times for three tightening sequences.
The butyl tape I used is marine grade and has low flow characteristics under pressure. You can buy this tape from  https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmarinehowto.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhouse%40nasa.gov%7Cfa533cda51714ece3a6f08d92775bdfb%7C7005d45845be48ae8140d43da96dd17b%7C0%7C0%7C637584208919542875%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=b5FKqkQczh1v9M6eelTLf8XgGJA6pn0xJJUzS22F%2Bwc%3D&reserved=0  look under the featured products, and that is what I recommend; tapes purchased from other sources such as RV parts suppliers are not the same.

In general, the https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmarinehowto.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhouse%40nasa.gov%7Cfa533cda51714ece3a6f08d92775bdfb%7C7005d45845be48ae8140d43da96dd17b%7C0%7C0%7C637584208919542875%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=b5FKqkQczh1v9M6eelTLf8XgGJA6pn0xJJUzS22F%2Bwc%3D&reserved=0   is a worthwhile website for many
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 19:17:15 -0400
From: Winslow Ayer <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
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Sounds great! So you don?t need any caulking around the flange? That would make it an ideal sealant and easy to apply.

Winslow

> On Jun 3, 2021, at 7:13 PM, John Maliszewski via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> ?It has been about nine years since I bedded all my GulfStar 37 
> porthole frames with butyl tape. The butyl tape I used still remains 
> soft and pliable, although it has formed a slight outer skin at 
> perhaps .005 inches level. My original logic for choosing butyl was 
> that I anticipated replacing my inside teak paneling that was 
> installed all the way to the ports and wanted to make sure that I 
> could remove the port's frames easily when I got around to replacing 
> the teak. My ports are mounted from the inside. Well nine years later 
> I have absolutely dry ports and no new paneling. I can still see the 
> butyl squeeze outs, from under the port frames and can confirm that they are pliable.
> During the original installation I was generous with the butyl and 
> placed a full ribbon against the port frame before inserting the port 
> into its opening. The key to good installation  is to make sure that 
> you see butyl squeezing out as you tighten the mounting screws and 
> then to go back in a couple of days later and continue with another 
> 1/4 turn on your bolts, I repeated this process at least two times for three tightening sequences.
> The butyl tape I used is marine grade and has low flow characteristics 
> under pressure. You can buy this tape from  
> https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmari
> nehowto.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhouse%40nasa.gov%7Cfa533cda51714ece3a6f08d92775bdfb%7C7005d45845be48ae8140d43da96dd17b%7C0%7C0%7C637584208919542875%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=b5FKqkQczh1v9M6eelTLf8XgGJA6pn0xJJUzS22F%2Bwc%3D&reserved=0  look under the featured products, and that is what I recommend; tapes purchased from other sources such as RV parts suppliers are not the same.
> 
> In general, the https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmarinehowto.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhouse%40nasa.gov%7Cfa533cda51714ece3a6f08d92775bdfb%7C7005d45845be48ae8140d43da96dd17b%7C0%7C0%7C637584208919542875%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=b5FKqkQczh1v9M6eelTLf8XgGJA6pn0xJJUzS22F%2Bwc%3D&reserved=0   is a worthwhile website for many
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> 
> John Maliszewski
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 21:18:43 -0400
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Thank you so very much!

GregH
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On Thu., Jun. 3, 2021, 2:51 p.m. Michael Connolly via Public-List, < public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

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> what he designed.  We also spoke about how well it has held up these 
> past 6 years.  I have about 20 photographs which I took in 2014 just 
> after he installed the dodger/bimini. After speaking today he is going 
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> has indicated that today after 6 years of service he would not change the design.
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 06:55:09 -0500
From: "Marcelo D. Gentinetta" <vanguard64 at cox.net>
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That is great! Thanks!
Marcelo
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> On Jun 3, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Greg Hounsell via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> Thank you so very much!
> 
> GregH
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> On Thu., Jun. 3, 2021, 2:51 p.m. Michael Connolly via Public-List, < 
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>> Hello all,
>> As promised I have been in touch with David on details and costs for 
>> what he designed.  We also spoke about how well it has held up these 
>> past 6 years.  I have about 20 photographs which I took in 2014 just 
>> after he installed the dodger/bimini. After speaking today he is 
>> going to take photos of how it stands today. In addition I will post 
>> with George David's comments on how well the design has worked for 
>> him. He has indicated that today after 6 years of service he would not change the design.
>> 
>> So in a week or so I will send all of this to George to make a page 
>> on the
>> A-30 Web-site.
>> Michael #133
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 12:07:51 -0400
From: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Public-List] Varnish ? Finishing Interior Wood
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Dear Albergers,

The wood outside, exposed to the elements, takes a bit of a beating from the sun.

Thinking that there may be a preference for a different finish inside compared to outside in the sun, wind and rain.

Which of the many finishes do you prefer for wood inside the boat?

Jonathan
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 12:14:22 -0400 (EDT)
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Definately a rubbed oil finish.
Michael #133
> On 06/04/2021 12:07 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>  
> Dear Albergers,
> 
> The wood outside, exposed to the elements, takes a bit of a beating from
> the sun.
> 
> Thinking that there may be a preference for a different finish inside
> compared to outside in the sun, wind and rain.
> 
> Which of the many finishes do you prefer for wood inside the boat?
> 
> Jonathan
> -- 
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:27:56 +0000
From: Michael Devonshire <Devonshire at jhpokorny.com>
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I?ve been using Epiphanes with satisfactory results. Previous owner used Cetol, which IMO appears too much like a polyurethane finish - at least as it was applied. I?d like to hear other opinions, too.
Mike
Pickle #619

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> On Jun 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Michael Connolly via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Definately a rubbed oil finish.
> Michael #133
>> On 06/04/2021 12:07 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Albergers,
>> 
>> The wood outside, exposed to the elements, takes a bit of a beating from
>> the sun.
>> 
>> Thinking that there may be a preference for a different finish inside
>> compared to outside in the sun, wind and rain.
>> 
>> Which of the many finishes do you prefer for wood inside the boat?
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> -- 
>> Jonathan M Bresler
>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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