[Public-List] Casting Rudder Shoe and Gudgeons

[Michael Connolly]

Gerry,
If you look at the responses. Mike Lehman has the pattern that Peter McEvoy used to cast the shoes.  I didn't realize that when I forwarded this message to you.  If you can access either a shoe or a pattern from Canada, that would be the way to go. I don't believe that there was any difference in the shoes for the entire production run of the Alberg 30's.

If the inside of the shoe doesn't exactly match the dead wood of the keel you can either shape the dead wood or use a thickened epoxy paste on the deadwood and then with release agent on the shoe mash the shoe in place.  When the epoxy cures the shoe will come off and you will have a nicely moulded bed for the shoe.
Of course before you "mash" the shoe into the epoxy paste have the rudder in place and the new pivot on the rudder so that the shoe is going exaclty where it needs to be. Having a exact match for the shoe to be fastened onto the deadwood will go a long way toward excellent durability of the shoe staying in place.
Let us know what you end up doing.
Michael #133

>     On 06/27/2021 7:35 PM Taft Gerry <gftaft at yahoo.ca> wrote:
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>     WOW!  Thank you so much.  
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>     On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 07:02:27 a.m. PDT, Michael Connolly <crufone at comcast.net> wrote:
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>     Gerry,
>     Here is the reference to Peter McEvoy who cast several rudder shoes for the A-30 group.  They were $100.00 plus $12.00 shipping.  I would contact him to see if he still has the pattern. This might help you substantially in getting this project completed.
>     Michael #133
>     > ---------- Original Message ----------
>     > From: Peter McEvoy < peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com mailto:peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com >
>     > To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>     > Date: 07/12/2012 10:11 PM
>     > Subject: [Public-List] Casting Rudder Shoe and Gudgeons
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>     > Hi Everybody,
>     >
>     > I'm the guy who works at the bronze foundry in San Francisco. I've been
>     > trying to keep track of everybody's info re: needs for rudder shoes and
>     > gudgeons for the sake of clarity. After trolling through the digests, here
>     > are the interested parties I have down (Add yours if you like):
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>     > *Rudder Shoe*:
>     > Bill Ydel - wcydel at gmail.com mailto:wcydel at gmail.com
>     > Mike Lehman - sail_505 at hotmail.comJeff mailto:sail_505 at hotmail.comJeff Fongemie - fongemie at gmail.com mailto:fongemie at gmail.com
>     > Brian Curry - brian_curry at hotmail.com mailto:brian_curry at hotmail.com
>     > David Mitchell - david at mitchellent.com mailto:david at mitchellent.com
>     > Peter McEvoy - peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com mailto:peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com
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>     > *Gudgeon Sets*:
>     > Glenn Brooks - brooks.glenn at comcast.net mailto:brooks.glenn at comcast.net
>     > David Mitchell - david at mitchellent.com mailto:david at mitchellent.com
>     > Michael #133 - crufone at comcast.net mailto:crufone at comcast.net
>     > Peter McEvoy - peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com mailto:peter.t.mcevoy at gmail.com
>     >
>     >
>     > My understanding is that Mike Lehman is getting a mold made of his rudder
>     > shoe this weekend, with potential to cast copies from the mold at a foundry
>     > in Baltimore- a great idea. I trust he'll keep us updated when ready.
>     >
>     > Now, I live in San Francisco and do bronze casting (and mold making) for a
>     > living and would also love to get my hands on an original, quality rudder
>     > shoe and gudgeon pair in order to make molds of them (Plans with
>     > dimensions, accurate diagrams or digital 3-d models work too!). Not trying
>     > to steal any casting opportunities or anything, it just never hurts to have
>     > your eggs in a few baskets instead of one. To Bill Ydel and Mike Lehman -
>     > let me know if/when your shoes are available and I'll make a "backup" copy
>     > for the west coast.
>     >
>     > Sounds like our current need is on the gudgeons. Critical dimensions, or a
>     > pair of originals, would be greatly appreciated. I can sculpt new gudgeons
>     > from scratch if somebody at least has some dimensions scribbled down
>     > somewhere. From there, a mold can be made and bronzes cast. I see on the
>     > site that the crappy-looking gudgeons (no offense!) from #231 give
>     > dimensions, but I'd like to base my measurements off of a cast set.
>     >
>     > A quick note regarding bronze alloys: All of the casting I have done has
>     > been for fine art, which typically casts using Everdur (astm alloy C-873),
>     > a type of silicon bronze. It is 95% copper, 4% Silicon, and 1% Manganese.
>     > It is has exceptional corrosion resistance and is excellent for marine
>     > hardware both above and below waterline. It would work perfectly for the
>     > rudder hardware and is likely to be the most common alloy you'll find
>     > around bronze foundries, in case any of you are scoping out places to have
>     > things cast. It should be compatible with most rudder stock material, such
>     > as Naval bronze.
>     >
>     > Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions!
>     >
>     > -Peter McEvoy
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