[Public-List] Boat Insurance Question
John Birch
Sunstone at cogeco.ca
Thu Mar 25 16:31:36 PST 2021
In both Canada and the USA you can add Hagerty to the list of Marine insurance on Classic Boats including plastic classics.
While we are with Skipper's Plan, Hagerty represents another avenue worth exploring.
Hope this is a help.
Cheers,
JB
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From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Laco via Public-List
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Cc: Gordon Laco; RICHARD HAZLEGROVE
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Boat Insurance Question
Hello friends,
I second Marianne’s comments, Drew at Skipper’s Plan is a sailor himself and knows the business. I have had a claim and having him navigating the insurance world for me was invaluable.
I reckon the key is to have a broker who knows the business… they must exist in the US.
One thing Drew helped me understand is that if one insures the yacht with too low a value assigned to her, even minor damage can cause her to be written off. On that subject I am delighted that CARANDY, quite a nice A30, likely sold for a reasonably good price, which helps us all.
Gordon Laco
426 Surprise
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Marianne King-Wilson via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> In Canada, there can be none better than skippersplan.com
> They understand classic boats, particularly the A-30, make no unreasonable demands, and charge affordable rates.
> I hope you will be so fortunate in your search.
>
> Marianne King-Wilson
> Windward #369
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> On Mar 25, 2021, at 09:50, RICHARD HAZLEGROVE via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> I know this question comes up from time to time but since I wasn’t in the market for insurance I unfortunately did not take note of the suggestions. Until now.
>
> I have a very generous Agreed Value policy from Hanover Insurance ($22,000) first issued in 1998. I have never filed a claim. Yesterday I received notice of non-renewal explaining that they were exiting the line of business.
>
> I’m not all that concerned about replacing the agreed value since I doubt it would be anywhere near what I had. Boat US first quoted $5,100 before clarifying that they don’t write this or even liability coverage for vessels older than 40 years. Quest was built in 1970 and is kept on a private dock at our second home in the lower Chesapeake Bay.
>
> So can anyone suggest a company or agent that can underwrite basic liability coverage for my 50 year old boat. Thanks
>
> Richard Hazlegrove
> Quest 433
> Mobjack Bay, VA.
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>> hey just a follow up, Michigan wheel has recommended that I get a 12"
>> / 11 three blade prop and that is what the engine guys have ordered
>> for the Bill of Rights
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>> Thank you all for your response, I'll follow up with this further
>> after some use this summer.
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>> Scott
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>> Quoting John Johnston via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>:
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>>> Regarding prop size- My Alberg 30 ( # 69) spent many more months at
>>> the slip this past year unattended than I had anticipated. Last
>>> October I came down to the Bay from my home in Massachusetts
>>> intending to spend a pleasant month sailing. It turned out that
>>> while the diesel fired right up, I had no forward or reverse motion.
>>> The shaft was turning, but no motion. I thought perhaps it was
>>> barnacles on the prop, and I hired a diver to give it a scrape and a
>>> scrub, but he resurfaced in a minute and informed me that I had no
>>> prop, just a hub. Severe galvanic corrosion. The story goes on, but
>>> the point is that I am looking to buy a new prop.
>>> My diesel is a Westerbeke 20 2B. Not the original engine, but
>>> when a previous owner installed it they kept the 2 blade prop that
>>> was appropriate for the Atomic 4. I decided to upgrade to a three
>>> blade Chesapeake prop at that time, (5 years ago) which was deemed
>>> to be the proper, well, prop, for the new engine and transmission.
>>> However, now it is time for a new prop. What I had bought was
>>> a 13x12x3 from Miller Island. Lovely piece of work, but it is shot.
>>> I have also been doing some research and reading, and came across an
>>> article about prop size by Ted Brewer more than a decade ago, and he
>>> maintains that the prop in an aperture should never have less than
>>> two inches of clearance at the top of the blade, to avoid
>>> cavitation. The aperture height on my Alberg is 14?. To achieve that
>>> 2? would be a 10? prop, which seems awfully sleight. I am thinking
>>> perhaps an 11? prop with whatever adjustment to pitch would be
>>> appropriate. Or maybe 12? as a compromise.
>>> I would very much welcome the wisdom of the elders, and
>>> everyone else that has expertise or experience with this matter.
>>> Thanks to anyone offering their experience or advice
>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Mike Meinhold via Public-List
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>>>> ?Scott
>>>> I am glad to hear Bill of Rights will be sailing again.
>>>>
>>>> If you have some specs on the Vetus 25 we can see how it compares with the
>>>> A4 -13x7 2-blade match that you most likely have
>>>>
>>>> I repowered with a beta 16 and kept the same prop as I found it was about
>>>> the same operating point
>>>> We would need the engine torque and power vs rpm, and the gear ratio to
>>>> check.
>>>>
>>>> For the sails I suggest you provide the sailmaker with the Chesapeake
>>>> Alberg rules in the Association handbook. I highly recommend 2 reefs and
>>>> use both frequently.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> Rinn Duin 272
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 21:26 Bill of Rights #487 via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone, I am a long time A30 owner and also had a Tartan 34-2
>>>>> for 10 years, I just recently sold that boat.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm putting all my efforts back into #487 "Bill of Rights" this year! Yea!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am re-powering to a 25HP Vetus engine with a 2:1 hearth gear and
>>>>> just wanted to hear what others have "sized" for a 2 blade sailor prop
>>>>> on other diesel conversions?
>>>>>
>>>>> The At-4 engine was rebuilt and has less than 10 hrs. Any interested
>>>>> parties should reach out to me
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also getting a new suit of sails from Precision, #400 series! Does
>>>>> anyone have any experience or suggestions would be helpful Main w/ 2
>>>>> reefs, 135# headsail w luff ??????????
>>>>>
>>>>> New interior cushions!
>>>>>
>>>>> Boat still has some deck issues and I'll have to fix that as I go
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope to catch up with like-minded a-30 sailors this summer on the bay.
>>>>> I am securing a slip on the Magothy River so I'll be closer to my home
>>>>> and sail some new waters this summer!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Scott
>>>>>
>>>>>
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