[Public-List] deck mounted bilge pump

Wed Sep 15 06:28:57 PDT 2021

Strainer/foot valve?

First time I have heard that term.   Google.
https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/38066502

Ah!  That makes sense!

On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 8:55 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Hello David,
>
> A black casing may indicate your pump is a Patay… those are British pumps
> and although very good quality, are unknown in the USA.  We distribute them
> but have not made much of an effort to promote them in the USA.
>
> Henderson pumps also have black bodies… some Alberg 30’s had them
> installed as a retrofit.
>
>
> If you send me a photograph, that would clinch the matter.   Parts are
> available for all three types, although as I wrote, I think I’m the only
> source for Patay pumps.
>
>
> Anecdote, as usual.  When I bought TOUCH WOOD, my Danish-built Folkboat,
> she had a Patay pump beneath her cockpit.  It’s output was not impressive,
> and quickly got worse that first fall I had the boat.  I lifted the teak
> gratings that formed her cockpit sole and looked at the unfamiliar pump.
> Patays have a clever lever arrangement that allows the main pumping body
> and valves exposed by throwing the lever and removing the cover plate.  I
> did this… and found the entire pump was jammed with beer bottle caps,
> screws, and mush.  Out they all came… and the pump worked well for years
> after…  hahaha.
>
> I eventually replaced the Patay with a Gusher 25 double acting pump.
>  When I was rebuilding TW I bought a double acting Patay for her.    And oh
> yes, I put a strainer/foot valve on the bilge pump intake.
>
>
> Gordon Laco
> Surprise 426
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 15, 2021, at 8:43 AM, David Terrell via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > I would prefer to have this pump working. A yellow casing has been
> > mentioned. Mine is black. I do not know if this matters. it is
> > attached to the deck with two bolts that are imbedded in the deck. I
> > think this needs to be attended to be someone who knows how to do it.
> > That is probably a off season activity.
> > I did find the gusher 10 on the whale site. There is also a video on
> > servicing the unit which I will watch.
> > I do not know if this is the law in the US or in Michigan where we
> > live.
> > David
> >
> >       -----------------------------------------From: "Winslow Ayer via
> > Public-List"
> >
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> > Cc: "Winslow Ayer"
> > Sent: Wednesday September 15 2021 4:21:09AM
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] deck mounted bilge pump
> >
> > I agree with Gordon. Having a manual pump is just a good idea. Parts
> > for the pump are readily available. You can just Google Whale bilge
> > pumps and find the kits for an easy fix.
> >
> > Winslow
> >
> >> On Sep 15, 2021, at 5:06 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List  wrote:
> >>
> >> Good morning,
> >>
> >> It is possible that all that is wrong with the pump is a bit of
> > debris stuck in one of the pump’s two valves. You can clear this by
> > removing the large hose clamp which secures the main diaphragm of the
> > pump to the yellow aluminium casting, then running a finger through
> > each valve.
> >>
> >> If a valve or the diaphragm is torn, you can very easily order new
> > parts which come in a kit. Whale of Ireland is still in business, but
> > very inexpensive parts from knock-off companies are readily available.
> >>
> >> I would suggest that a functional manual pump is not only the law,
> > if you are in Canada, it is good seamanship. An electric pump is the
> > one that is the ‘would like but not need’ side of the equation.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Gordon Laco
> >> Surprise 426
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 9:49 PM, David Terrell via Public-List  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> My Alberg 30 is 51 years old. I have recently discovered that the
> > deck
> >>> mounted bilge pump is no longer functional.
> >>> Is there a replacement part? I am assuming that the current one is
> > a
> >>> Whale pump and they might have an upgrade.
> >>> I would welcome any thoughts on removing the old unit and
> > replacing it
> >>> with a new pump. I recognize that this work may be above my pay
> > grade.
> >>> Since I have a functional rule bilge pump, I think this is a want
> > and
> >>> not a need at this time.
> >>> David, 432
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