[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 4320, Issue 1
Michael Connolly
crufone at comcast.net
Fri Jul 15 13:07:47 PDT 2022
Michael,
I have found that in most conditions the 110 jib with the original size main provides the easiest balance for this boat. Our boats are rated with a 190 Genoa. I can't imagine the boat ever being balanced with a 190 Genoa hoisted! In any kind of air the 160 is too large as well.
Michael #133
> On 07/15/2022 2:20 PM Michael via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>
> It seems like a smaller foresail would cause more weather helm,
> everything else being equal. It must be the overlap-sail area behind the
> mast-causing the issue. You run the sheets for the 110 outside the
> shrouds?
>
> Michael G
> Checkmate #220
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> From "Daniel Swords via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
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> Date 7/15/2022 10:20:37 AM
> Subject Re: [Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 4320, Issue 1
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> > I am a live-aboard, singlehanded day sailor and I routinely use my 2005 SimradTP22 as a third hand to hold the tiller while standing at the mast, when raising, stowing and reefing my mainsail. It also works OK for short duration compass course sailing (I have no electronics) in steady wind conditions.
> >
> > I routinely use sheet-to-tiller steering which allows me to move freely about the boat while taking hours long breaks from steering. This works well for me in highly variable (direction and strength) wind conditions. Webb Chiles singlehandedly circumnavigated his Moore 24 without a wind vane using sheet-to-tiller steering. Unfortunately, like sailing in general, this is a skill that has taken me many, many months of diligent trial and error practice to obtain. It has been an enjoyable and rewarding experience for me but it takes efforts to learn. Also unfortunately, what I have taken more thatn a year to self learn could probably be taught with several hours of hands on instructions. Two caveats: I have not found anything on YouTube that even half way approaches really functional sheet-to-tiller self-steering and my greatest advancement occurred when I ditched my weather-helm inducing 150% genoa for a much better balanced 110% genoa.
> >
> >Daniel Swords; Solitude #525, Lake Pontchartrain, LA
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> > 1. Re: Tiller Pilots (Wes Gardner)
> > 2. Re: Tiller Pilots (Clay Pass)
> > 3. Re: Tiller Pilots (Mike Meinhold)
> > 4. Water leaking through first step into cabin (Wade Wall)
> > 5. Re: Water leaking through first step into cabin (Glenn Brooks)
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> >Message: 1
> >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:36:01 -0400
> >From: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
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> >Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller Pilots
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> >I had a ST 2000, seemed to work fine - keep it dry...I have no experience
> >with the others
> >
> >Wes
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> >On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 5:09 PM Alexander Mitchell via Public-List <
> >public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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> >>Hi All,
> >>
> >>I am looking at grabbing a tiller pilot for some longer day sails, short
> >>cruising, and just to get me a hand when I am working at the mast getting
> >>sails up and down. I am in Chicago, so Lake Michigan is the game.
> >>
> >>I am looking at the ST 2000+, TP22, and the Pelagic set up.
> >>
> >>Any opinions? Happy to hear them!
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Al
> >>Rascal #145
> >>
> >>--
> >>Al Mitchell
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> >Message: 2
> >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 21:14:34 -0400
> >From: Clay Pass <clay.q.pass at gmail.com>
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> >Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller Pilots
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> >I would recommend the TP32 as opposed to the TP22. Heavier duty. I bought
> >one (open box) on eBay several years ago and haven't had any trouble with
> >it. The TP32 has automatic sea state adjustment, I just thought the TP22
> >was overly complicated with adjustments. The TP32 I just turn it on, set
> >course, and let it go.
> >
> >Clay
> >#449 Seeing Deep
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> >On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 5:09 PM Alexander Mitchell via Public-List <
> >public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi All,
> >>
> >>I am looking at grabbing a tiller pilot for some longer day sails, short
> >>cruising, and just to get me a hand when I am working at the mast getting
> >>sails up and down. I am in Chicago, so Lake Michigan is the game.
> >>
> >>I am looking at the ST 2000+, TP22, and the Pelagic set up.
> >>
> >>Any opinions? Happy to hear them!
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Al
> >>Rascal #145
> >>
> >>--
> >>Al Mitchell
> >>815-579-4968
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> >Message: 3
> >Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 06:11:38 -0400
> >From: Mike Meinhold <meinhold272 at gmail.com>
> >To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller Pilots
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> >Al
> >I have the ST-2000 and have always been happy with its performance. I use
> >it mostly when Single-handed, and mostly for motoring, but sometimes
> >sailing too . I have found I can use it upwind as long as the sails are
> >properly balanced .
> >
> >
> >I looked a bit and found this incredible deal
> >https://www.meftala.com/products/Raymarine-St2000-5-Ton-Tiller-Pilot?data_from=search_detail&variant_sku_code=117538-0-0-0-0-0-0
> >
> >Normally the cost is a bit over $500 , and this offer is $40 . Maybe
> >something is messed up.
> >
> >Mike
> >Rinn Duin 272
> >
> >On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 17:17 Alexander Mitchell via Public-List <
> >public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi All,
> >>
> >>I am looking at grabbing a tiller pilot for some longer day sails, short
> >>cruising, and just to get me a hand when I am working at the mast getting
> >>sails up and down. I am in Chicago, so Lake Michigan is the game.
> >>
> >>I am looking at the ST 2000+, TP22, and the Pelagic set up.
> >>
> >>Any opinions? Happy to hear them!
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Al
> >>Rascal #145
> >>
> >>--
> >>Al Mitchell
> >>815-579-4968
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> >Message: 4
> >Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 10:31:28 -0400
> >From: Wade Wall <wade.wall at gmail.com>
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> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >Subject: [Public-List] Water leaking through first step into cabin
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> >Hi all,
> >
> >I have discovered that water is leaking through the screws for the first
> >step into my cabin (drips down into the cabin) and I have no idea where to
> >start looking for the source(s) of the leak. Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >Wade Wall
> >
> >Extra credit. I am not getting email notifications when ppl reply, so have
> >to go into the archives. Is there a way to get notifications?
> >
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> >Message: 5
> >Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 08:18:22 -0700
> >From: Glenn Brooks <brooks.glenn at comcast.net>
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> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Public-List] Water leaking through first step into cabin
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> >Wade, I had similar leakage in Dolce. The water was seeping in around the edges of the hatch track runners.. mostly the aft ends as I recall. I re-bedded the runners and screws with Dolphinite and stopped the leaks.
> >
> >Glenn
> >Sent from my iPad
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> >>On Jul 14, 2022, at 7:32 AM, Wade Wall via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>?Hi all,
> >>
> >>I have discovered that water is leaking through the screws for the first
> >>step into my cabin (drips down into the cabin) and I have no idea where to
> >>start looking for the source(s) of the leak. Any help would be appreciated.
> >>
> >>Wade Wall
> >>
> >>Extra credit. I am not getting email notifications when ppl reply, so have
> >>to go into the archives. Is there a way to get notifications?
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