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Thu Nov 16 14:10:10 PST 2023
Gordon -- The tee is just a convenience item. You don't need it. Just take the end of the raw water intake hose off the seacock and put it in a bucket with 2 gal of non-toxic antifreeze. If (and only if) your engine is raw water cooled, then it is best to remove the thermostat. If you are in the Annapolis area, then I would be happy to show you how.
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Today's Topics:
1. winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (dterrell1 at charter.net)
2. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (Gordon Laco)
3. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (dterrell1 at charter.net)
4. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (Gordon Laco)
5. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (Gordon Laco)
6. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (R Kirk)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 16:19:32 +0000
From: dterrell1 at charter.net
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Subject: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
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Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4
engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I
think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like some
precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but need
the details on this procedure.
While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a
reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something that
should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on
Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one even needs
one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has
been winterized for 50 plus years.
Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
Thanks David, 432
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 11:34:55 -0500
From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
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<public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
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Hello David,
I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine. I bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in automotive cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden hose ends, so it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose. When winterizing, I put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end of the meter of hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll be amazed at how fast the engine?s cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze.
Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the manifold and engine block.
I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends. Why four? Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing and scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the engine. Then the old ones came to light again...
Gord
#426 Surprise
Gordon Laco
http://www.gordonlaco.com/
705-527-9612
> On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4
> engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I
> think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like some
> precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but need
> the details on this procedure.
>
>
>
> While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a
> reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something that
> should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
> looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on
> Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one even needs
> one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has
> been winterized for 50 plus years.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
>
>
>
> Thanks David, 432
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 17:09:26 +0000
From: dterrell1 at charter.net
To: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>, "Alberg 30 Public List -- open
to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
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Gordon, Thanks. Do you have any thoughts on doing this if you do not
have a t fitting?
David
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
Hello David,
I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine.
I bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in
automotive cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden hose ends,
so it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose. When
winterizing, I put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end
of the meter of hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll be
amazed at how fast the engine?s cooling pump slurps up the
anti-freeze.
Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the
engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the
various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the
manifold and engine block.
I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends. Why four?
Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing and
scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the engine.
Then the old ones came to light again...
Gord
#426 Surprise
Gordon Laco
[1]http://www.gordonlaco.com/
705-527-9612
[XHwX+f11zH84w8nZJAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC]
On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List
<[2]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4
engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard,
I
think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like
some
precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but
need
the details on this procedure.
While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a
reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something
that
should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on
Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one even needs
one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine
has
been winterized for 50 plus years.
Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
Thanks David, 432
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 12:10:19 -0500
From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
To: dterrell1 at charter.net
Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Sure? just pull the intake hose off the hose barb on the sea cock. That works fine, but is more bother than having the T fitting.
G
Gordon Laco
http://www.gordonlaco.com/
705-527-9612
> On Nov 16, 2023, at 12:09 PM, dterrell1 at charter.net wrote:
>
> Gordon, Thanks. Do you have any thoughts on doing this if you do not have a t fitting?
>
> David
>
> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Cc: <dterrell1 at charter.net>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 16 2023 09:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block Hello
> David,
>
> I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine. I bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in automotive cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden hose ends, so it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose. When winterizing, I put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end of the meter of hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll be amazed at how fast the engine?s cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze.
>
> Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the manifold and engine block.
>
> I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends. Why four? Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing and scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the engine. Then the old ones came to light again...
>
> Gord
> #426 Surprise
>
>
>
> Gordon Laco
> http://www.g/
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> On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote:
> Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4
> engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I
> think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like some
> precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but need
> the details on this procedure.
>
>
>
> While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a
> reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something that
> should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
> looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on
> Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one even needs
> one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has
> been winterized for 50 plus years.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
>
>
>
> Thanks David, 432
> _______________________________________________
> These businesses support your Association:
> http://www.a/
> lberg30.org%2Fstore%2FA30supporters.html&data=05%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhous
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 12:29:44 -0500
From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
To: dterrell1 at charter.net
Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
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Hello again - I was too brief in my response?
?Sure, just pull the intake hose off the sea cock?. and put it into the jug(s) of non-toxic antifreeze.
G
Gordon Laco
http://www.gordonlaco.com/
705-527-9612
> On Nov 16, 2023, at 12:09 PM, dterrell1 at charter.net wrote:
>
> Gordon, Thanks. Do you have any thoughts on doing this if you do not have a t fitting?
>
> David
>
> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Cc: <dterrell1 at charter.net>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 16 2023 09:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block Hello
> David,
>
> I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine. I bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in automotive cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden hose ends, so it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose. When winterizing, I put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end of the meter of hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll be amazed at how fast the engine?s cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze.
>
> Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the manifold and engine block.
>
> I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends. Why four? Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing and scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the engine. Then the old ones came to light again...
>
> Gord
> #426 Surprise
>
>
>
> Gordon Laco
> http://www.g/
> ordonlaco.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhouse%40nasa.gov%7Cc28b2b1d8
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>
>
> On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote:
> Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4
> engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I
> think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like some
> precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but need
> the details on this procedure.
>
>
>
> While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a
> reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something that
> should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
> looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on
> Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one even needs
> one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has
> been winterized for 50 plus years.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
>
>
>
> Thanks David, 432
> _______________________________________________
> These businesses support your Association:
> http://www.a/
> lberg30.org%2Fstore%2FA30supporters.html&data=05%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhous
> e%40nasa.gov%7Cc28b2b1d8c584d7a12cc08dbe6cd1525%7C7005d45845be48ae8140
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 17:53:11 +0000 (UTC)
From: R Kirk <isobar at verizon.net>
To: "dterrell1 at charter.net" <dterrell1 at charter.net>, Gordon Laco via
Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
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No need for non-toxic antifreeze in the engine. I used plain cheap car antifreeze in the engine & toilet. I emptied the fresh water tank and used a little bit of the pink stuff in the lower tubing. (Would always forget the kettle which would invariably freezup, but luckily did no damage.) You're probably right though cause it's easier not to worry about 2 different types of antifreeze.
On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 12:30:12 PM EST, Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
Hello again - I was too brief in my response?
?Sure, just pull the intake hose off the sea cock?. and put it into the jug(s) of non-toxic antifreeze.
G
Gordon Laco
http://www.gordonlaco.com/
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> On Nov 16, 2023, at 12:09 PM, dterrell1 at charter.net wrote:
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> Gordon, Thanks. Do? you have any thoughts on doing this if you do not have a t fitting?
>?
> David
>
> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
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> Sent: Thu, Nov 16 2023 09:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
>Hello David, ?
> I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine.? ? I bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in automotive cooling systems.? ? The cap on the T fits garden hose ends, so it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose.? When winterizing, I put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end of the meter of hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze.? You?ll be amazed at how fast the engine?s cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze.
>?
> Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the manifold and engine block.?
>?
> I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends.? Why four?? Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing and scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the engine.? ? Then the old ones came to light again...
>?
> Gord
> #426 Surprise
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> On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote:
>? Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4 ?
>engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I
>? think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like
>some ? precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea,
>but need ? the details on this procedure.
>
>
>
>? While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a ?
>reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something that
>? should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
>? looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on ?
>Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if? one even needs ?
>one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has
>? been winterized for 50 plus years.
>
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>? Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
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>
>? Thanks? David, 432
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