[Public-List] [EXTERNAL] [BULK] Public-List Digest, Vol 4450, Issue 1
Mike Meinhold
meinhold272 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 16 14:49:28 PST 2023
I put in a tee with a valve because I sail in the winter and need to
rewinterize after each trip . I have a hose attached so the process takes
minutes.
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 17:10 Greenhouse, Matthew A. (GSFC-665.0)[EMERITUS]
via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> Gordon -- The tee is just a convenience item. You don't need it. Just take
> the end of the raw water intake hose off the seacock and put it in a bucket
> with 2 gal of non-toxic antifreeze. If (and only if) your engine is raw
> water cooled, then it is best to remove the thermostat. If you are in the
> Annapolis area, then I would be happy to show you how.
>
> Friendship 295
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> 1. winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (dterrell1 at charter.net)
> 2. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (Gordon Laco)
> 3. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (dterrell1 at charter.net)
> 4. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (Gordon Laco)
> 5. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (Gordon Laco)
> 6. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (R Kirk)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 16:19:32 +0000
> From: dterrell1 at charter.net
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
> Message-ID: <36a87162-ba9e-1d34-bb2a-40a8c5cf3c67 at charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4
> engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I
> think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like some
> precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but need
> the details on this procedure.
>
>
>
> While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a
> reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something that
> should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
> looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on
> Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one even needs
> one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has
> been winterized for 50 plus years.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
>
>
>
> Thanks David, 432
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 11:34:55 -0500
> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
> Message-ID: <09B7DCF9-74BF-467A-A420-8DBBFAA97E6F at csolve.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hello David,
>
> I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine. I
> bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in
> automotive cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden hose ends, so
> it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose. When winterizing, I
> put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end of the meter of
> hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll be amazed at how fast the
> engine?s cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze.
>
> Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the
> engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the
> various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the
> manifold and engine block.
>
> I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends. Why four?
> Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing and
> scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the engine.
> Then the old ones came to light again...
>
> Gord
> #426 Surprise
>
>
>
> Gordon Laco
> http://www.gordonlaco.com/
> 705-527-9612
>
>
>
> > On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4
> > engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I
> > think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like some
> > precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but need
> > the details on this procedure.
> >
> >
> >
> > While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a
> > reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something that
> > should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
> > looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on
> > Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one even needs
> > one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has
> > been winterized for 50 plus years.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks David, 432
> > _______________________________________________
> > These businesses support your Association:
> > http://www.a/
> > lberg30.org%2Fstore%2FA30supporters.html&data=05%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhous
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 17:09:26 +0000
> From: dterrell1 at charter.net
> To: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>, "Alberg 30 Public List -- open
> to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
> Message-ID: <1eee3f11-a1e5-48f1-f72d-0aeda392a4cc at charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Gordon, Thanks. Do you have any thoughts on doing this if you do not
> have a t fitting?
>
>
>
> David
> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Cc: <dterrell1 at charter.net>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 16 2023 09:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
> Hello David,
>
>
>
> I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine.
> I bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in
> automotive cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden hose ends,
> so it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose. When
> winterizing, I put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end
> of the meter of hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll be
> amazed at how fast the engine?s cooling pump slurps up the
> anti-freeze.
>
>
>
> Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the
> engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the
> various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the
> manifold and engine block.
>
>
>
> I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends. Why four?
> Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing and
> scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the engine.
> Then the old ones came to light again...
>
>
>
> Gord
>
> #426 Surprise
>
>
>
>
>
> Gordon Laco
> [1]http://www.gordonlaco.com/
> 705-527-9612
> [XHwX+f11zH84w8nZJAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC]
>
> On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List
> <[2]public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4
> engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard,
> I
> think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like
> some
> precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but
> need
> the details on this procedure.
> While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a
> reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something
> that
> should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
> looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on
> Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one even needs
> one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine
> has
> been winterized for 50 plus years.
> Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
> Thanks David, 432
> _______________________________________________
> These businesses support your Association:
> [3]http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> Please support them.
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> References
>
> 1. http://www.gordonlaco.com/
> 2. mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> 3. http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 12:10:19 -0500
> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: dterrell1 at charter.net
> Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
> Message-ID: <E266C550-306F-4E76-8DF4-2EAF3F4F5316 at csolve.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Sure? just pull the intake hose off the hose barb on the sea cock. That
> works fine, but is more bother than having the T fitting.
>
> G
>
>
> Gordon Laco
> http://www.gordonlaco.com/
> 705-527-9612
>
>
>
> > On Nov 16, 2023, at 12:09 PM, dterrell1 at charter.net wrote:
> >
> > Gordon, Thanks. Do you have any thoughts on doing this if you do not
> have a t fitting?
> >
> > David
> >
> > From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Cc: <dterrell1 at charter.net>
> > Sent: Thu, Nov 16 2023 09:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block Hello
> > David,
> >
> > I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine. I
> bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in
> automotive cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden hose ends, so
> it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose. When winterizing, I
> put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end of the meter of
> hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll be amazed at how fast the
> engine?s cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze.
> >
> > Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the
> engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the
> various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the
> manifold and engine block.
> >
> > I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends. Why four?
> Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing and
> scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the engine.
> Then the old ones came to light again...
> >
> > Gord
> > #426 Surprise
> >
> >
> >
> > Gordon Laco
> > http://www.g/
> > ordonlaco.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhouse%40nasa.gov%7Cc28b2b1d8
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> > 705-527-9612
> >
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>>
> wrote:
> > Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4
> > engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I
> > think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like some
> > precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but need
> > the details on this procedure.
> >
> >
> >
> > While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a
> > reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something that
> > should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
> > looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on
> > Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one even needs
> > one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has
> > been winterized for 50 plus years.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks David, 432
> > _______________________________________________
> > These businesses support your Association:
> > http://www.a/
> > lberg30.org%2Fstore%2FA30supporters.html&data=05%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhous
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 12:29:44 -0500
> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: dterrell1 at charter.net
> Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
> Message-ID: <54BB575F-54E7-40AD-B76C-15F1AB2E09D8 at csolve.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hello again - I was too brief in my response?
>
> ?Sure, just pull the intake hose off the sea cock?. and put it into the
> jug(s) of non-toxic antifreeze.
>
> G
>
>
> Gordon Laco
> http://www.gordonlaco.com/
> 705-527-9612
>
>
>
> > On Nov 16, 2023, at 12:09 PM, dterrell1 at charter.net wrote:
> >
> > Gordon, Thanks. Do you have any thoughts on doing this if you do not
> have a t fitting?
> >
> > David
> >
> > From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Cc: <dterrell1 at charter.net>
> > Sent: Thu, Nov 16 2023 09:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block Hello
> > David,
> >
> > I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine. I
> bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in
> automotive cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden hose ends, so
> it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose. When winterizing, I
> put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end of the meter of
> hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll be amazed at how fast the
> engine?s cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze.
> >
> > Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the
> engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the
> various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the
> manifold and engine block.
> >
> > I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends. Why four?
> Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing and
> scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the engine.
> Then the old ones came to light again...
> >
> > Gord
> > #426 Surprise
> >
> >
> >
> > Gordon Laco
> > http://www.g/
> > ordonlaco.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhouse%40nasa.gov%7Cc28b2b1d8
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> > 705-527-9612
> >
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>>
> wrote:
> > Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4
> > engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I
> > think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like some
> > precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but need
> > the details on this procedure.
> >
> >
> >
> > While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a
> > reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something that
> > should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
> > looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on
> > Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one even needs
> > one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has
> > been winterized for 50 plus years.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks David, 432
> > _______________________________________________
> > These businesses support your Association:
> > http://www.a/
> > lberg30.org%2Fstore%2FA30supporters.html&data=05%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhous
> > e%40nasa.gov%7Cc28b2b1d8c584d7a12cc08dbe6cd1525%7C7005d45845be48ae8140
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 17:53:11 +0000 (UTC)
> From: R Kirk <isobar at verizon.net>
> To: "dterrell1 at charter.net" <dterrell1 at charter.net>, Gordon Laco via
> Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
> Message-ID: <1781165113.2466422.1700157191997 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> No need for non-toxic antifreeze in the engine. I used plain cheap car
> antifreeze in the engine & toilet. I emptied the fresh water tank and used
> a little bit of the pink stuff in the lower tubing. (Would always forget
> the kettle which would invariably freezup, but luckily did no damage.)
> You're probably right though cause it's easier not to worry about 2
> different types of antifreeze.
>
> On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 12:30:12 PM EST, Gordon Laco via
> Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> Hello again - I was too brief in my response?
>
> ?Sure, just pull the intake hose off the sea cock?. and put it into the
> jug(s) of non-toxic antifreeze.
>
> G
>
>
> Gordon Laco
> http://www.gordonlaco.com/
> 705-527-9612
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>
>
> > On Nov 16, 2023, at 12:09 PM, dterrell1 at charter.net wrote:
> >
> > Gordon, Thanks. Do? you have any thoughts on doing this if you do not
> have a t fitting?
> >?
> > David
> >
> > From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> ><public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Cc: <dterrell1 at charter.net>
> > Sent: Thu, Nov 16 2023 09:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
> >Hello David, ?
> > I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine.? ? I
> bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in
> automotive cooling systems.? ? The cap on the T fits garden hose ends, so
> it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose.? When winterizing, I
> put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end of the meter of
> hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze.? You?ll be amazed at how fast the
> engine?s cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze.
> >?
> > Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the
> engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the
> various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the
> manifold and engine block.?
> >?
> > I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends.? Why four??
> Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing and
> scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the engine.? ?
> Then the old ones came to light again...
> >?
> > Gord
> > #426 Surprise
> >?
> >?
> >
> > Gordon Laco
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> > On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>>
> wrote:
> >? Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4 ?
> >engine, Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I
> >? think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like
> >some ? precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea,
> >but need ? the details on this procedure.
> >
> >
> >
> >? While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a ?
> >reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something that
> >? should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it
> >? looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on ?
> >Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if? one even needs ?
> >one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has
> >? been winterized for 50 plus years.
> >
> >
> >
> >? Anyway, I welcome any help I can get.
> >
> >
> >
> >? Thanks? David, 432
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