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dterrell1 at charter.net
dterrell1 at charter.net
Thu Nov 16 14:55:25 PST 2023
So far the t fitting has been hard to find. As to the hose going to the
water pump, what is its inside diameter. I measured the outside at 1
inch. Knowing the ID would be helpful in getting a t fitting.
David 432
From: "Gordon Laco via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
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I think that’s another way of saying what i just told the earlier
writer. Having the T just makes it easier.
Gordon Laco www.gordonlaco.com 705-527-9612 > On Nov 16, 2023, at 5:10
PM, Greenhouse, Matthew A. (GSFC-665.0)[EMERITUS] via Public-List
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote: > > Gordon -- The tee is just a
convenience item. You don't need it. Just take the end of the raw water
intake hose off the seacock and put it in a bucket with 2 gal of
non-toxic antifreeze. If (and only if) your engine is raw water cooled,
then it is best to remove the thermostat. If you are in the Annapolis
area, then I would be happy to show you how. > > Friendship 295 > >
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Topics: > > 1. winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
(dterrell1 at charter.net) > 2. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
(Gordon Laco) > 3. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
(dterrell1 at charter.net) > 4. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block
(Gordon Laco) > 5. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (Gordon
Laco) > 6. Re: winterizing the atomic 4 engine block (R Kirk) > > >
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> > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 16:19:32 +0000 > From:
dterrell1 at charter.net > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" >
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org> > Subject: [Public-List] winterizing
the atomic 4 engine block > Message-ID:
<36a87162-ba9e-1d34-bb2a-40a8c5cf3c67 at charter.net> > Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Over the years I have always had
someone else winterize my atomic 4 > engine, Now that there has been a
management change in our boatyard, I > think it is good idea to learn
how to do it. So what I would like some > precise direction about how
to do it. I have the general idea, but need > the details on this
procedure. > > > > While looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page
9-2 I found a > reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and
something that > should be installed prior to the winterizing process.
I know what it > looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not
find one on > Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one
even needs > one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as
the engine has > been winterized for 50 plus years. > > > > Anyway, I
welcome any help I can get. > > > > Thanks David, 432 > > >
------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023
11:34:55 -0500 > From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> > To: Alberg
30 Public List -- open to all > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> >
Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block >
Message-ID: <09B7DCF9-74BF-467A-A420-8DBBFAA97E6F at csolve.net> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello David, > > I put one
of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine. I bought it
at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in automotive
cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden hose ends, so it was easy
to put one of those on a meter of hose. When winterizing, I put the T
on, close the intake sea cock then put the end of the meter of hose in
jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll be amazed at how fast the engine?s
cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze. > > Once pink anti-freeze is
evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the engine (after shooting
?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the various little brass
cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the manifold and engine
block. > > I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends. Why
four? Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing
and scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the
engine. Then the old ones came to light again... > > Gord > #426
Surprise > > > > Gordon Laco > http://www.gordonlaco.com/ >
705-527-9612 > > > >> On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via
Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote: >> >> Over the
years I have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4 >> engine,
Now that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I >> think
it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like some >>
precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but need
>> the details on this procedure. >> >> >> >> While looking at Moyer's
maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a >> reference to a "t" fitting
that part of the process and something that >> should be installed
prior to the winterizing process. I know what it >> looks like, but
Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on >> Defender. Some
directions on where to get one or if one even needs >> one. Since I do
not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has >> been
winterized for 50 plus years. >> >> >> >> Anyway, I welcome any help I
can get. >> >> >> >> Thanks David, 432 >>
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Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 17:09:26 +0000 > From:
dterrell1 at charter.net > To: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>, "Alberg
30 Public List -- open > to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> >
Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block >
Message-ID: <1eee3f11-a1e5-48f1-f72d-0aeda392a4cc at charter.net> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Gordon, Thanks. Do you
have any thoughts on doing this if you do not > have a t fitting? > > >
> David > From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net> > To: "Alberg 30
Public List -- open to all" > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> > Cc:
<dterrell1 at charter.net> > Sent: Thu, Nov 16 2023 09:35 AM > Subject:
Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block > Hello David,
> > > > I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s
engine. > I bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing
lines in > automotive cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden
hose ends, > so it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose.
When > winterizing, I put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put
the end > of the meter of hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll
be > amazed at how fast the engine?s cooling pump slurps up the >
anti-freeze. > > > > Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the
exhaust, I shut off the > engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the
air filter) and open the > various little brass cocks I?ve installed in
the drain plugs on the > manifold and engine block. > > > > I have four
of those short hoses with garden hose ends. Why four? > Because three
times I?ve not been able to find the damned thing and > scrambled to
make up another one when I came to winterize the engine. > Then the old
ones came to light again... > > > > Gord > > #426 Surprise > > > > > >
Gordon Laco > [1]http://www.gordonlaco.com/ > 705-527-9612 >
[XHwX+f11zH84w8nZJAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC] > > On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM,
David Terrell via Public-List > <[2]public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
wrote: > > Over the years I have always had someone else winterize my
atomic 4 > engine, Now that there has been a management change in our
boatyard, > I > think it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I
would like > some > precise direction about how to do it. I have the
general idea, but > need > the details on this procedure. > While
looking at Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a >
reference to a "t" fitting that part of the process and something >
that > should be installed prior to the winterizing process. I know
what it > looks like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find
one on > Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if one even
needs > one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the
engine > has > been winterized for 50 plus years. > Anyway, I welcome
any help I can get. > Thanks David, 432 >
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support your Association: >
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mailing list > Public-List at lists.alberg30.org >
http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org > >
References > > 1. http://www.gordonlaco.com/ > 2.
mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org > 3.
http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html > > >
------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023
12:10:19 -0500 > From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> > To:
dterrell1 at charter.net > Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all >
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org> > Subject: Re: [Public-List]
winterizing the atomic 4 engine block > Message-ID:
<E266C550-306F-4E76-8DF4-2EAF3F4F5316 at csolve.net> > Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Sure? just pull the intake hose off the
hose barb on the sea cock. That works fine, but is more bother than
having the T fitting. > > G > > > Gordon Laco >
http://www.gordonlaco.com/ > 705-527-9612 > > > >> On Nov 16, 2023, at
12:09 PM, dterrell1 at charter.net wrote: >> >> Gordon, Thanks. Do you
have any thoughts on doing this if you do not have a t fitting? >> >>
David >> >> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net> >> To: "Alberg 30
Public List -- open to all" >> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> >> Cc:
<dterrell1 at charter.net> >> Sent: Thu, Nov 16 2023 09:35 AM >> Subject:
Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block Hello >> David,
>> >> I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s
engine. I bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing
lines in automotive cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden hose
ends, so it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose. When
winterizing, I put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end
of the meter of hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll be amazed
at how fast the engine?s cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze. >> >>
Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the
engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the
various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the
manifold and engine block. >> >> I have four of those short hoses with
garden hose ends. Why four? Because three times I?ve not been able to
find the damned thing and scrambled to make up another one when I came
to winterize the engine. Then the old ones came to light again... >> >>
Gord >> #426 Surprise >> >> >> >> Gordon Laco >> http://www.g/ >>
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>> >> >> On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org
<mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote: >> Over the years I
have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4 >> engine, Now that
there has been a management change in our boatyard, I >> think it is
good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like some >> precise
direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but need >> the
details on this procedure. >> >> >> >> While looking at Moyer's
maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a >> reference to a "t" fitting
that part of the process and something that >> should be installed
prior to the winterizing process. I know what it >> looks like, but
Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on >> Defender. Some
directions on where to get one or if one even needs >> one. Since I do
not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has >> been
winterized for 50 plus years. >> >> >> >> Anyway, I welcome any help I
can get. >> >> >> >> Thanks David, 432 >>
_______________________________________________ >> These businesses
support your Association: >> http://www.a/ >>
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Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 12:29:44 -0500 > From: Gordon Laco
<mainstay at csolve.net> > To: dterrell1 at charter.net > Cc: Alberg 30
Public List -- open to all > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> >
Subject: Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block >
Message-ID: <54BB575F-54E7-40AD-B76C-15F1AB2E09D8 at csolve.net> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello again - I was too
brief in my response? > > ?Sure, just pull the intake hose off the sea
cock?. and put it into the jug(s) of non-toxic antifreeze. > > G > > >
Gordon Laco > http://www.gordonlaco.com/ > 705-527-9612 > > > >> On Nov
16, 2023, at 12:09 PM, dterrell1 at charter.net wrote: >> >> Gordon,
Thanks. Do you have any thoughts on doing this if you do not have a t
fitting? >> >> David >> >> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net> >>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" >>
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org> >> Cc: <dterrell1 at charter.net> >>
Sent: Thu, Nov 16 2023 09:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [Public-List]
winterizing the atomic 4 engine block Hello >> David, >> >> I put one
of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s engine. I bought it
at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing lines in automotive
cooling systems. The cap on the T fits garden hose ends, so it was easy
to put one of those on a meter of hose. When winterizing, I put the T
on, close the intake sea cock then put the end of the meter of hose in
jugs of non-toxic antifreeze. You?ll be amazed at how fast the engine?s
cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze. >> >> Once pink anti-freeze is
evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off the engine (after shooting
?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open the various little brass
cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the manifold and engine
block. >> >> I have four of those short hoses with garden hose ends.
Why four? Because three times I?ve not been able to find the damned
thing and scrambled to make up another one when I came to winterize the
engine. Then the old ones came to light again... >> >> Gord >> #426
Surprise >> >> >> >> Gordon Laco >> http://www.g/ >>
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>> >> >> On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org
<mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote: >> Over the years I
have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4 >> engine, Now that
there has been a management change in our boatyard, I >> think it is
good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like some >> precise
direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, but need >> the
details on this procedure. >> >> >> >> While looking at Moyer's
maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a >> reference to a "t" fitting
that part of the process and something that >> should be installed
prior to the winterizing process. I know what it >> looks like, but
Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on >> Defender. Some
directions on where to get one or if one even needs >> one. Since I do
not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine has >> been
winterized for 50 plus years. >> >> >> >> Anyway, I welcome any help I
can get. >> >> >> >> Thanks David, 432 >>
_______________________________________________ >> These businesses
support your Association: >> http://www.a/ >>
lberg30.org%2Fstore%2FA30supporters.html&data=05%7C01%7Cmatt.greenhous
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Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 17:53:11 +0000 (UTC) > From: R Kirk
<isobar at verizon.net> > To: "dterrell1 at charter.net"
<dterrell1 at charter.net>, Gordon Laco via > Public-List
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org> > Subject: Re: [Public-List]
winterizing the atomic 4 engine block > Message-ID:
<1781165113.2466422.1700157191997 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > No need for non-toxic antifreeze in the
engine. I used plain cheap car antifreeze in the engine & toilet. I
emptied the fresh water tank and used a little bit of the pink stuff in
the lower tubing. (Would always forget the kettle which would
invariably freezup, but luckily did no damage.) You're probably right
though cause it's easier not to worry about 2 different types of
antifreeze. > > On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 12:30:12 PM EST,
Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote: > >
Hello again - I was too brief in my response? > > ?Sure, just pull the
intake hose off the sea cock?. and put it into the jug(s) of non-toxic
antifreeze. > > G > > > Gordon Laco > http://www.gordonlaco.com/ >
705-527-9612 > > > >> On Nov 16, 2023, at 12:09 PM,
dterrell1 at charter.net wrote: >> >> Gordon, Thanks. Do? you have any
thoughts on doing this if you do not have a t fitting? >> ? >> David >>
>> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net> >> To: "Alberg 30 Public
List -- open to all" >> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> >> Cc:
<dterrell1 at charter.net> >> Sent: Thu, Nov 16 2023 09:35 AM >> Subject:
Re: [Public-List] winterizing the atomic 4 engine block >> Hello David,
? >> I put one of those T fittings in the intake hose of my A4?s
engine.? ? I bought it at a car supply store - they?re used to flushing
lines in automotive cooling systems.? ? The cap on the T fits garden
hose ends, so it was easy to put one of those on a meter of hose.? When
winterizing, I put the T on, close the intake sea cock then put the end
of the meter of hose in jugs of non-toxic antifreeze.? You?ll be amazed
at how fast the engine?s cooling pump slurps up the anti-freeze. >> ?
>> Once pink anti-freeze is evident coming out the exhaust, I shut off
the engine (after shooting ?fogging oil? into the air filter) and open
the various little brass cocks I?ve installed in the drain plugs on the
manifold and engine block.? >> ? >> I have four of those short hoses
with garden hose ends.? Why four?? Because three times I?ve not been
able to find the damned thing and scrambled to make up another one when
I came to winterize the engine.? ? Then the old ones came to light
again... >> ? >> Gord >> #426 Surprise >> ? >> ? >> >> Gordon Laco >>
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>> >> >> On Nov 16, 2023, at 11:19 AM, David Terrell via Public-List
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org
<mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote: >> ? Over the years I
have always had someone else winterize my atomic 4 ? >> engine, Now
that there has been a management change in our boatyard, I >> ? think
it is good idea to learn how to do it. So what I would like >> some ?
precise direction about how to do it. I have the general idea, >> but
need ? the details on this procedure. >> >> >> >> ? While looking at
Moyer's maintenance manual, on page 9-2 I found a ? >> reference to a
"t" fitting that part of the process and something that >> ? should be
installed prior to the winterizing process. I know what it >> ? looks
like, but Moyer does not sell them and I did not find one on ? >>
Defender. Some directions on where to get one or if? one even needs ?
>> one. Since I do not have one, it can not be necessary as the engine
has >> ? been winterized for 50 plus years. >> >> >> >> ? Anyway, I
welcome any help I can get. >> >> >> >> ? Thanks? David, 432 >>
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