[Public-list] Water tank problem on older boats (or, boat fal ling apart, ...

Todd Redhead todd.redhead at sympatico.ca
Sun Jan 2 07:00:45 PST 2005 

Hello David,

I cut an access port into my watertank this past summer.   You can see a 
picture of how it looks here: 
http://www3.sympatico.ca/todd.redhead/Boat/MiscPhotos.html

It was not hard to do.  Just take out the screws in the top of the little 
seat, then pry up the fitted piece of plywood.  I cut a finger hole into it 
so that I could pull it up more easily.  Then I cut the hole, and installed 
the access port with 5200.  Works great and does not leak even when 
completely full.  As you can also see in the picture beside it, I had some 
growth!  As for your leak, it might be the water tank but I doubt it.  My 
tank was solid!  I don't see how it could leak unless it is damaged somehow. 
I think there were 2 different types of tanks used, one like mine where 
everything is glass and another one that had a metal top that was riveted 
into place.  I understand that the ones with the metal top could develop 
leaks at the seams but on the all glass ones, I don't think I've ever heard 
of them leaking.

Todd
Strathgowan #400



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amy & David Swanson" <zira at bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] Water tank problem on older boats (or,boat fal 
ling apart, ...


> It did not appear that the tank was leaking from the fittings on the top. 
> I did not think to check the forepeak area, but I have never had leakage 
> there before.  I will look more closely at that area when I go back (I 
> live 130 miles inland).
>
> So the small seat is part of a larger tank that includes some space under 
> the v berths?  I have difficulty understanding how that would work.  Is 
> the tank just fiberglassed wood plus the hull sides?  If so, it seems 
> unlikely that water could migrate under it from the forepeak.  What are 
> you guys using for inspection ports - standard 6" screw-in ports?
>
> David Swanson
> Strayaway Child
> Alberg 30 #229
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> ling apart, ...
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>
>>
>> Hey,
>> Stargazer, #255, is built the same way.
>>
>> There are no limber holes to let water that comes in through the air
>> vent/chain port on the forward deck back to the bilge on Stargazer. Any 
>> water  coming
>> from the deck and going into the anchor rode area in the forpeak makes 
>> its
>> way onto the top of the water tank, in the space beneath the v berth. 
>> That
>> could be the source of water that you are seeing, too.
>>
>> We have never used the water tank on Stargazer. One project which I hope 
>> to
>> get to this winter is to put in an inspection plate as Stephen did, and 
>> see
>> what  is in there and if the tank is usable. If not, I am thinking of 
>> working a
>> flexible tank into the the existing tank, and using that for our fresh 
>> water
>> needs. Have to finish building the galley/settee/ quarter berth before I 
>> get
>> to  that project, though. :)
>>
>> Lee,
>> Stargazer #2
>>
>> In a message dated 1/1/2005 8:18:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> sousa_stephen at emc.com writes:
>>
>> David,
>>
>> On #114 and I think your boat is same design as ours, the  water tank is
>> fiberglass and uses the hull as the outside of the tank. It  is actually
>> located under both v-berths and the center portion as well. On  the port 
>> side
>> we have a cover that is screwed into the tank with a vent and  fill hose. 
>> I
>> placed an inspection port on the starboard side, actually the  tank was
>> spotless inside. The water may be coming from the hoses on that  cover 
>> and
>> dripping down the center of the boat. I have a few leaks where  the
>> inspection port is installed and plan on fixing that in the spring  with
>> 4200.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>> -----Original  Message-----
>> From:  public-list-bounces at alberg30.org
>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org]  On Behalf Of Amy & David 
>> Swanson,
>> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005  7:53 PM
>> To: Alberg 30 public list
>> Subject: [Public-list] Water tank  problem on older boats (or, boat 
>> falling
>> apart, part one)
>>
>> Took our  boat (#229) out today, and notice that there seemed to be water
>> seeping out  from the small "seat" in the center of the V berth.  The 
>> water
>> seemed  to be seeping out along the bottom front of this seat.  A quick 
>> check
>> showed that it was not coming from any through-hull or the waste  holding
>> tank.  I can only assume that this is coming from the water  tank.  All 
>> the
>> info about water tank problems in the maintenance  manual refers to the 
>> newer
>> models with an aluminum cover.  I cannot  find any such cover; my fill is
>> under the port v berth.  Can someone  tell me exactly where the tank is
>> located, and how it is constructed?   I always assumed that it took up 
>> space
>> under the v berth rather than inside  that seat but now I am not so sure. 
>> If
>> the seat is not part of the  tank, do I need to remove it to get to the 
>> tank?
>> Anyone got any  pics/drawings of how all this is put together?
>>
>> David  Swanson
>> Strayaway Child
>> Alberg 30  #229
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