[Public-list] Roller furling sails

Wed Jan 12 05:07:18 PST 2005

Good morning Chris -

Great - I will see you at the Club on Monday.

Gord

> Thanks - just got it and yes I do sail out of RCYC. I have been a member for
> a couple of years but just bought #500 in August. Am (i.e me and others)
> doing a lot of work on her this winter, including deckwork and a new engine
> (it turns out the A4 will cost too much to repair).
> As I was writing this reply a light went on in my head and I recalled seeing
> your name somewhere - just checked Kwasind (the monthly RCYC magazine) and
> found it - your presentation re your role as historical consultant for
> "Master & Commander" next Monday Jan 17! I will definitely see you there!
> 
> Chris Lawrence
> 24 Scarborough Road
> Toronto, Canada M4E 3M5
> T: 416-698-5136 F: 416-698-8953 E: chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-list-bounces at alberg30.org
> [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Laco
> Sent: 11 January 2005 21:45
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] Roller furling sails
> 
> 
> Hi there - 
> 
> I forgot to write the message before hitting 'send' - sorry about the last
> blank message.
> 
> Chris - I just faxed you a sketch of what I did about our outhaul.  And I
> forget; do you sail out of RCYC?
> 
> Cheers - Gord 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Gord
>> Thanks to you for your earlier advice re Ron Lopes at Triton - I have
>> ordered a new 135% headsail and shaeffer 1100 from him and look fwd to
>> using it soon! Was wondering whether you had any pictures or a diagram
>> of how you have rigged your 4:1 outhaul. I am trying to rig an outhaul
>> and would appreciate any advice you or others have, preferably that
>> leads back to the cockpit as I do a lot of single-handed sailing.
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Chris Lawrence
>> Cirrus #500
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-list-bounces at alberg30.org
>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Laco
>> Sent: 01 October 2004 07:21
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-list] Roller furling sails
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there -
>> 
>> We race and cruise Surprise on Georgian Bay - upper Great Lakes.
>> 
>> I had a 140 made to put on the Harken roller furler our boat is fitted
>> with. The furler works fine - and the sail....well it transformed my
>> opinion of the boat.  I wish now that I had bought a slightly larger
>> one, a 150 would have been better.  I guess we became traumatized (and
>> disapointed) during that first season with this boat sailing under a
>> blown out 170 that laid us on our ear in 12 knots of breeze.
>> 
>> We have found that mainsail draught is important...carrying too much
>> draught in it in a breeze while beating just puts the brakes on.
>> (Excessive weather
>> helm) We now have a 4:1 outhaul that leads to a point on the boom near the
>> gooseneck so we can adjust it on any point of sail.  Some day I will order
> a
>> new main.  I have been faithfull to the Fernandes family of Triton sails
> all
>> my life.  The son now runs the loft since the passing of Joe, the father.
>> Joe was the top sailmaker for the Lake Ontario Alberg fleet back in the
> days
>> when the A30 was a hot one-design up here
>> 
>> We had the sail fitted with a light dacron UV shield - I hate the
>> weight and curl you get from floppy Sunbrella.  Also - we never "reef"
>> the sail on the furler.  That kills it quickly and besides, the sail
>> shape you get is horrible so we carry a 110 % jib to change down to in
>> heavy conditions.
>> 
>> We race in a PHRF fleet and can win or place if conditions favour us.
>> There is only one Alberg 30 in our club, but as they will not be
>> persuaded to race we are out there every week duking it out with boats
>> less than half our weight, longer waterlines and bigger rigs.
>> 
>> "Conditions that favour us" are those that combine flat water, light
>> air and lots of reaching.  Some people are surprised at how we can
>> shift along in ghosting conditions...well the answer is that going
>> slowly means that our short waterline is not a factor; and with our
>> great weight and narrow slippery hull once we get her moving we just
>> don't stop.  We accelerate more slowly but can glide through lulls and
>> keep our speed up in tacks very well.
>> 
>> We do tend to loose ground on the beats, and gain it again off the
>> wind. Funny thing is this is the precise opposite of what the old
>> wooden Folkboat was capable of; despite the fact that she was also a
>> heavy full keeled boat with a relatively short waterline and it took
>> me a long time to get used to what we deal with now.  The big diff of
>> course is the Folkboat was stiff as a house, could tack through 80
>> degrees and could carry sail like nothing else on the water; the
>> Alberg despite its many positives cannot count stiffness and
>> weatherliness as two of them.
>> 
>> On the beats we concentrate on getting the most of what the boat is
>> capable of to minimize our disadvantage, and also concentrate on being
>> as evil and clever as possible tactically so as to be "lucky" as
>> possible with regard to lifts and shifts.
>> 
>> A big boost this past season was the flowering of my elder son Peter
>> and his friend Duncan as mast and foredeck men... I have grown to
>> expect that the spinnaker will go up seconds after rounding the
>> windward mark; and we have the courage to carry it to within yards of
>> the other end.
>> 
>> Gord Surpise #426
>> 
>>> I'll let someone who sails the Great Lakes answer, then.  On the
>>> Chesapeake Bay, I'm often glad to have a big genny.
>>> 
>>> - George
>>> 
>>> Chris Lawrence wrote:
>>>> Great lakes and sailing mostly, thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Lawrence
>>>> 24 Scarborough Road
>>>> Toronto, Canada M4E 3M5
>>>> T: 416-698-5136 F: 416-698-8953 E: chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: public-list-bounces at alberg30.org
>>>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of George
>>>> Dinwiddie
>>>> Sent: 30 September 2004 09:33
>>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-list] Roller furling sails
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Where are your cruising grounds?  The prevailing winds make a big
>>>> difference in sail choice.  Also, what are your preferences on
>>>> sailing vs. motoring?
>>>> 
>>>>  - George
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 08:37:12PM -0400, Chris Lawrence wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone recently put on roller furling and had a sail made for
>>>>> one? Any advice or comments re make of furling and size of sail
>>>>> would be appreciated - my thoughts are a mid-sized headsail is
>>>>> probably best if one is strictly cruising.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Lawrence
>>>>> Cirrus #500
>>>> 
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