[Alberg30] Re: Public-list digest, Vol 1 #197 - 13 msgs
Gord Laco
gord at transatmarine.com
Mon Apr 30 09:07:48 PDT 2001
Hello all -
I used to use wire for my jacklines, but the afore mentioned rolling problem
is real. Also, I like to use something that cannot be confused for anything
else on deck. Sooo, I took lengths of red 1/2" diameter dacron braidline
and removed the core. Nothing else on deck is red, if you step on it, it
goes flat, and in the dark it feels differant from anything else.
Gord
KC426 Surprise
----- Original Message -----
From: James Otton <jotton at acuson.com>
To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:18 AM
Subject: [Alberg30] Re: Public-list digest, Vol 1 #197 - 13 msgs
> Jack Lines
> I own an Alberg 30 along with a open 40 for solo sailing I have done the
Alantic solo race , many Great Lakes solo races I currentley have the
current
> record for the fastest mono hull in the Port Huron to Mac. Island Race
(solo) and prepairing the race boat for the Around Alone Race. Jack lines
make it two
> less streach (webbing). When sailing on the Atantic ect I change over to
dieform wire no streach but can roll under your foot . your choice.
> jim otton
>
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> > 1. Jack lines? (Randy Katz)
> > 2. Help-Big Problem (SwiftLaw at aol.com)
> > 3. Re: Help-Big Problem (Fritz)
> > 4. Re: Help-Big Problem (T. Kevin Blanc)
> > 5. Re: Deck hole (T. Kevin Blanc)
> > 6. Re: Help-Big Problem (SwiftLaw at aol.com)
> > 7. Used Main (Christos Katehis)
> > 8. Re: Help-Big Problem (Mike Lehman)
> > 9. Re: Help-Big Problem (Mike Lehman)
> > 10. Re: Deck hole (George Dinwiddie)
> > 11. Re: Help-Big Problem (Alan P. Kefauver)
> > 12. Re: Deck hole (John P Reber)
> > 13. Re: Help-Big Problem (greg vandenberg)
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:52:58 -0700
> > From: Randy Katz <randyk at bertschi.org>
> > To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
> > Subject: [Alberg30] Jack lines?
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
> > Greetings,
> > On the "new" A30 I acquired (#3067249) I plan to add jack lines for
use
> > with a safety harness and tether. Does anyone have thoughts about where
to
> > locate the jack lines? I'm assuming flat nylon webbing running from pad
> > eyes would be the way to go-- down the center/near center from near the
> > companion way to the mast, and then to the bow? Better to have just one
> > line with no breaks?
> >
> > Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. I just want to be sure I
> > stay on board when sailing solo, and not hanging over the life lines
because
> > the jacklines stretched out in the middle of their span.
> >
> > By the by, I'll be trucking this boat to Tacoma, WA. from Astoria,
OR,
> > in the next weeks. I actually saw another A-30 sitting on a truck
trailer
> > in Tacoma yesterday. Thought it was mine, at first!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > Randy Katz
> > Gr. 3
> > Bertschi School
> > 2227 - 10th Ave E.
> > Seattle, WA. 98102
> > USA
> > 206-324-5476 X301
> > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 2
> > From: SwiftLaw at aol.com
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:53:18 EDT
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > Subject: [Alberg30] Help-Big Problem
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
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> > I am in the process of completing my acquisition of hull #222. Today I
had
> > the yard boss engineer on board. BIG PROBLEM - the main bracing beam
under
> > the deck mount of the Main mast is indented downward, It appears as if
the
> > mast is trying to come through the deck. Not too much delamination, but,
for
> > illustration, the forward cabin door is about 3/4 inch from closing due
to
> > the depression of the beam.
> >
> > Any experience with this? Can I shore it up or should I not complete
this
> > purchase and give up on a boat I am already in love with ????
> > Help-Advice-comments please.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tom Swift- Chicago
> >
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> > <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>I am in the process of
completing my acquisition of hull #222. Today I had
> > <BR>the yard boss engineer on board. BIG PROBLEM - the main
bracing beam under
> > <BR>the deck mount of the Main mast is indented downward, It appears as
if the
> > <BR>mast is trying to come through the deck. Not too much delamination,
but, for
> > <BR>illustration, the forward cabin door is about 3/4 inch from closing
due to
> > <BR>the depression of the beam.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>Any experience with this? Can I shore it up or should I not complete
this
> > <BR>purchase and give up on a boat I am already in love with ????
> > <BR>Help-Advice-comments please.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>Thanks
> > <BR>
> > <BR>Tom Swift- Chicago</FONT></HTML>
> >
> > --part1_a6.13573f65.281dd93e_boundary--
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:18:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Fritz <fritz at intra-dimension.com>
> > To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Help-Big Problem
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> > That's not really a problem so much as a design factor it appears. :)
All
> > the boats have/will have the same thing. It is simply a matter of adding
> > 3/8 inch aluminum peices to both sides of the wooden brace after it has
> > been slowly lifted with a building jack. We still have the building jack
> > in place actually. :) We will be fitting the braces on this week
> > hopefully. Just about everyone in the Annapolis area has done this. If
the
> > rest of the boat is in good shape, this is not an issue. I don't think
> > that should keep you from buying the boat. Best of luck.
> >
> > Oh, here's the url of a bunch of pictures about it.
> >
> > http://alberg30.org/maintenance/deckbeam/
> >
> > -Fritz
> >
> > #199 Backfin
> >
> > On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 SwiftLaw at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > I am in the process of completing my acquisition of hull #222. Today
I had
> > > the yard boss engineer on board. BIG PROBLEM - the main bracing beam
under
> > > the deck mount of the Main mast is indented downward, It appears as if
the
> > > mast is trying to come through the deck. Not too much delamination,
but, for
> > > illustration, the forward cabin door is about 3/4 inch from closing
due to
> > > the depression of the beam.
> > >
> > > Any experience with this? Can I shore it up or should I not complete
this
> > > purchase and give up on a boat I am already in love with ????
> > > Help-Advice-comments please.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Tom Swift- Chicago
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: "T. Kevin Blanc" <tkevinblanc at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Help-Big Problem
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
> > I doubt there is an A30 afloat that hasn't experienced
> > this (I've heard that the newer ones are better in
> > this regard). There are proven ways to fix this. I'm
> > sure you'll get help on this list from someone that
> > has completed the project recently (mine was done
> > before I purchased it).
> >
> > You may want to consider easing the tension on the rig
> > if all the stays seem really tight. Mike Lehman,
> > guidance on rig tension?
> >
> > --- SwiftLaw at aol.com wrote:
> > > I am in the process of completing my acquisition of
> > > hull #222. Today I had
> > > the yard boss engineer on board. BIG PROBLEM - the
> > > main bracing beam under
> > > the deck mount of the Main mast is indented
> > > downward, It appears as if the
> > > mast is trying to come through the deck. Not too
> > > much delamination, but, for
> > > illustration, the forward cabin door is about 3/4
> > > inch from closing due to
> > > the depression of the beam.
> > >
> > > Any experience with this? Can I shore it up or
> > > should I not complete this
> > > purchase and give up on a boat I am already in love
> > > with ????
> > > Help-Advice-comments please.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Tom Swift- Chicago
> > >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:55:50 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: "T. Kevin Blanc" <tkevinblanc at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Deck hole
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
> > Is there another one on the other side? Is it a deck
> > drain?
> >
> > --- greg vandenberg <fashionguy at ameritech.net> wrote:
> > > Most Albergs have a inspection plate in that
> > > location. I maybe that it
> > > was removed and never replaced.
> > > #312- Greg
> > >
> > > SwiftLaw at aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > My new acquisition Hull #222 has an empty hole
> > > with no cover in the
> > > > forward
> > > > edge of the cockpit. Looks like it might have held
> > > a bindle at one
> > > > time but
> > > > prior owner has no idea. Any thoughts?
> > >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 6
> > From: SwiftLaw at aol.com
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:22:50 EDT
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Help-Big Problem
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
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> >
> > In a message dated 4/29/01 5:20:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > fritz at intra-dimension.com writes:
> >
> > > It is simply a matter of adding
> > > 3/8 inch aluminum peices to both sides of the wooden brace after it
has
> > >
> >
> > Thanks so much. I feel better. But- How does the aluminum plate help the
> > structure relieve pressure from the top downwards? I saw the pix but I
don't
> > get the concept.
> >
> > My first thought was to lay a stainlees sheet across the bottom of the
beam
> > (after jacking it up and then matching one on the deck , and threw bolt
it.
> > Like a sandwich.
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > So very happy to have this resource of fellow sailors!
> >
> > Tom Swift Chicago
> > #222
> >
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> >
> > <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated
4/29/01 5:20:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > <BR>fritz at intra-dimension.com writes:
> > <BR>
> > <BR>
> > <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It is simply a
matter of adding
> > <BR>3/8 inch aluminum peices to both sides of the wooden brace after it
has
> > <BR>been slowly lifted with a building jack. </BLOCKQUOTE>
> > <BR>
> > <BR>Thanks so much. I feel better. But- How does the aluminum plate help
the
> > <BR>structure relieve pressure from the top downwards? I saw the pix but
I don't
> > <BR>get the concept.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>My first thought was to lay a stainlees sheet across the bottom of
the beam
> > <BR>(after jacking it up and then matching one on the deck , and threw
bolt it.
> > <BR>Like a sandwich.
> > <BR>Thoughts ?
> > <BR>
> > <BR>So very happy to have this resource of fellow sailors!
> > <BR>
> > <BR>Tom Swift Chicago
> > <BR>#222</FONT></HTML>
> >
> > --part1_54.13b75b83.281dfc4a_boundary--
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 7
> > From: "Christos Katehis" <kriskate at worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 06:09:08 -0400
> > Subject: [Alberg30] Used Main
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
> > I would like to purchase the used main for $100.
> >
> > Chris
> > #383 Barnegat Light
> > 917 873 5717
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 8
> > From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Help-Big Problem
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:35:06 -0400
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
> > By placing the aluminum on the front and rear sides of the beam and thru
> > bolting the pieces together you get maximum support from the metal
because
> > the downward pressure would have to bend two 3-1/2"H pieces of 3/8"
thick
> > aulminium rather than two 3/8"H pieces if laid flat.
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: SwiftLaw at aol.com
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Help-Big Problem
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:22:50 EDT
> >
> > In a message dated 4/29/01 5:20:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > fritz at intra-dimension.com writes:
> >
> > > It is simply a matter of adding
> > > 3/8 inch aluminum peices to both sides of the wooden brace after it
has
> > >
> >
> > Thanks so much. I feel better. But- How does the aluminum plate help the
> > structure relieve pressure from the top downwards? I saw the pix but I
don't
> > get the concept.
> >
> > My first thought was to lay a stainlees sheet across the bottom of the
beam
> > (after jacking it up and then matching one on the deck , and threw bolt
it.
> > Like a sandwich.
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > So very happy to have this resource of fellow sailors!
> >
> > Tom Swift Chicago
> > #222
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 9
> > From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Help-Big Problem
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:28:51 -0400
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
> > The main beam deflection is common on all A30s with wooded main beams.
The
> > repair is straight forward and simple and takes about 10 hours of work
start
> > to finish. Once complete, the boat is actually stronger that it was
> > originally.
> >
> > I have some comment on tension. A few years ago, at a large A30 raft-up
I
> > took a Loos tension guage and checked the rig tension on about 26 boats.
I
> > found a huge variation, from extremely loose to extremely tight. Many
people
> > feel they are being kind to the boat by having a loose rig - I disagree.
I
> > think a loose rig is as harmful, maybe more, than a tight rig because in
> > heavy air and choppy water the mast will "pump" with a loose rig causing
> > short bursts of heavy shock to the boat. I am not suggesting a over
> > tightened rig, rather proper tension. As a general rule the uppers
should be
> > about equal in tension with the top of the mast positioned directly over
the
> > base. The forward lowers should be taught and should actually pull the
mast
> > forward slightly at the spreaders when you sight up the mast. The after
> > lowers show be loose, almost sloppy. I have the actual numbers at home
and
> > will put them in a separate email, if anyone is interested.
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "T. Kevin Blanc" <tkevinblanc at yahoo.com>
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Help-Big Problem
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > I doubt there is an A30 afloat that hasn't experienced
> > this (I've heard that the newer ones are better in
> > this regard). There are proven ways to fix this. I'm
> > sure you'll get help on this list from someone that
> > has completed the project recently (mine was done
> > before I purchased it).
> >
> > You may want to consider easing the tension on the rig
> > if all the stays seem really tight. Mike Lehman,
> > guidance on rig tension?
> >
> > --- SwiftLaw at aol.com wrote:
> > > I am in the process of completing my acquisition of
> > > hull #222. Today I had
> > > the yard boss engineer on board. BIG PROBLEM - the
> > > main bracing beam under
> > > the deck mount of the Main mast is indented
> > > downward, It appears as if the
> > > mast is trying to come through the deck. Not too
> > > much delamination, but, for
> > > illustration, the forward cabin door is about 3/4
> > > inch from closing due to
> > > the depression of the beam.
> > >
> > > Any experience with this? Can I shore it up or
> > > should I not complete this
> > > purchase and give up on a boat I am already in love
> > > with ????
> > > Help-Advice-comments please.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Tom Swift- Chicago
> > >
> >
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> > Message: 10
> > From: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at min.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Deck hole
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:09:18 -0400 (EDT)
> > Organization: Hovel-On-The-Water
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
> > Do you mean a hole in the cockpit sole or a hole in the bulkhead?
> > As has been mentioned, there was originally a metal inspection
> > plate in the cockpit sole. If that's missing, the easiest thing
> > might be to just glass over the hole.
> >
> > - George
> >
> > > SwiftLaw at aol.com said:
> > >
> > > My new acquisition Hull #222 has an empty hole with no cover in the
forward
> > > edge of the cockpit. Looks like it might have held a bindle at one
time but
> > > prior owner has no idea. Any thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > George Dinwiddie gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
> > The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span those hours spent in
> > sailing. http://www.Alberg30.org/
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:19:10 -0400
> > From: "Alan P. Kefauver" <apk2 at home.com>
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Help-Big Problem
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
> > Yes, numbers please.
> > Alan
> > Andante#152
> >
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> >
> > On 4/30/2001 at 8:28 AM Mike Lehman wrote:
> >
> > >The main beam deflection is common on all A30s with wooded main beams.
> > >The
> > >repair is straight forward and simple and takes about 10 hours of work
> > >start
> > >to finish. Once complete, the boat is actually stronger that it was
> > >originally.
> > >
> > >I have some comment on tension. A few years ago, at a large A30 raft-up
I
> > >took a Loos tension guage and checked the rig tension on about 26
boats. I
> > >found a huge variation, from extremely loose to extremely tight. Many
> > >people
> > >feel they are being kind to the boat by having a loose rig - I
disagree. I
> > >think a loose rig is as harmful, maybe more, than a tight rig because
in
> > >heavy air and choppy water the mast will "pump" with a loose rig
causing
> > >short bursts of heavy shock to the boat. I am not suggesting a over
> > >tightened rig, rather proper tension. As a general rule the uppers
should
> > >be
> > >about equal in tension with the top of the mast positioned directly
over
> > >the
> > >base. The forward lowers should be taught and should actually pull the
> > >mast
> > >forward slightly at the spreaders when you sight up the mast. The after
> > >lowers show be loose, almost sloppy. I have the actual numbers at home
and
> > >will put them in a separate email, if anyone is interested.
> > >
> > >
> > >----Original Message Follows----
> > >From: "T. Kevin Blanc" <tkevinblanc at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > >To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > >Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Help-Big Problem
> > >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >I doubt there is an A30 afloat that hasn't experienced
> > >this (I've heard that the newer ones are better in
> > >this regard). There are proven ways to fix this. I'm
> > >sure you'll get help on this list from someone that
> > >has completed the project recently (mine was done
> > >before I purchased it).
> > >
> > >You may want to consider easing the tension on the rig
> > >if all the stays seem really tight. Mike Lehman,
> > >guidance on rig tension?
> > >
> > >--- SwiftLaw at aol.com wrote:
> > > > I am in the process of completing my acquisition of
> > > > hull #222. Today I had
> > > > the yard boss engineer on board. BIG PROBLEM - the
> > > > main bracing beam under
> > > > the deck mount of the Main mast is indented
> > > > downward, It appears as if the
> > > > mast is trying to come through the deck. Not too
> > > > much delamination, but, for
> > > > illustration, the forward cabin door is about 3/4
> > > > inch from closing due to
> > > > the depression of the beam.
> > > >
> > > > Any experience with this? Can I shore it up or
> > > > should I not complete this
> > > > purchase and give up on a boat I am already in love
> > > > with ????
> > > > Help-Advice-comments please.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Tom Swift- Chicago
> > > >
> > >
> > > +-----------------------------------------------------------+
> > > | Shop SailNet for your Spring outfitting needs. |
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> > Message: 12
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:27:59 -0400
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> > From: John P Reber <John.P.Reber at mail.tju.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Deck hole
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
> > > > SwiftLaw at aol.com said:
> > > >
> > > > My new acquisition Hull #222 has an empty hole with no cover in the
> > > forward
> > > > edge of the cockpit. Looks like it might have held a bindle at one
time
> > > but
> > > > prior owner has no idea. Any thoughts?
> >
> > Could it have been a vent to vent gas fumes out of the engine
compartment???
> >
> > ------------------
> > John P Reber
> > "FAIR WIND, #490"
> >
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> > Message: 13
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:09:00 -0400
> > From: greg vandenberg <fashionguy at ameritech.net>
> > Organization: greg vandenberg photographics
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Help-Big Problem
> > Reply-To: public-list at alberg30.org
> >
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> > Tom... as you can see there is a fix for your problem and it will take
> > some time and some money to do... if you haven't closed your deal you
> > should make a price adjustment for your or the yards labor and material.
> > Good Luck...Greg #312 - Grand Rapids
> >
> > SwiftLaw at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > I am in the process of completing my acquisition of hull #222. Today
> > > I had
> > > the yard boss engineer on board. BIG PROBLEM - the main bracing beam
> > > under
> > > the deck mount of the Main mast is indented downward, It appears as if
> > > the
> > > mast is trying to come through the deck. Not too much delamination,
> > > but, for
> > > illustration, the forward cabin door is about 3/4 inch from closing
> > > due to
> > > the depression of the beam.
> > >
> > > Any experience with this? Can I shore it up or should I not complete
> > > this
> > > purchase and give up on a boat I am already in love with ????
> > > Help-Advice-comments please.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Tom Swift- Chicago
> >
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> > Tom... as you can see there is a fix for your problem and it will
> > take some time and some money to do... if you haven't closed your deal
> > you should make a price adjustment for your or the yards labor and
material.
> > Good Luck...Greg #312 - Grand Rapids
> > <p>SwiftLaw at aol.com wrote:
> > <blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>I am in
> > the process of completing my acquisition of hull #222. Today I
had</font></font>
> > <br><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>the yard boss engineer on
> > board. BIG PROBLEM - the main bracing beam under</font></font>
> > <br><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>the deck mount of the
Main
> > mast is indented downward, It appears as if the</font></font>
> > <br><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>mast is trying to come
through
> > the deck. Not too much delamination, but, for</font></font>
> > <br><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>illustration, the forward
> > cabin door is about 3/4 inch from closing due to</font></font>
> > <br><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>the depression of the
beam.</font></font>
> > <p><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>Any experience with this?
> > Can I shore it up or should I not complete this</font></font>
> > <br><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>purchase and give up on
> > a boat I am already in love with ????</font></font>
> > <br><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>Help-Advice-comments
please.</font></font>
> > <p><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>Thanks</font></font>
> > <p><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>Tom Swift-
Chicago</font></font></blockquote>
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