[Alberg30] Help- Tin Canning Bow

[Larry Morris]

Dear Christos,

I am working on this exact project currently.  I had the same ideas as your
upgrades.  I would love to see any picture you may have this project.  You
can email them the address below.

Fair Winds and Great Sailing

Larry
larmor at myexcel.com

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  Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:09 PM
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  I noticed the same situation while she was on the hard. I took the stem
head fitting apart and to my surprise I found the thru hull bolts were bent!
The whole stem head fitting was pulled upward by the forestay force, about
1/2 inch fore minimizing to zero aft. I took the whole thing off and took
out all the caulking that was previously squeezed in there. I filled the
whole area with furring compound, three hands of it and sanded it down
similar to a baby's behind.

  At the same time, it dawned upon me where the water was coming in; under
the steam head plate and the deck / hull seal. After I sealed both, there
has not been a drop of water to be seen in the boat! And I do like to bury
the rail at times.

  While at it and of concern of crossing the Atlantic in 2004 I decided to
upgrade the whole stem head fitting and it's connection to the bow.

  First upgrade was to upgrade the bolts that attach the chainplate to the
hull as well as bolts that attach the stem head plate to the deck from 1/4
to 5/16".

  Second upgrade was to add filler / glass on the inside of the bow where
all the bolts come in, making sure to add lock nuts and big washers for load
distribution.

  Third upgrade was to change the two top bolts that attach the chainplate
to the stem head plate from ( 3/4" long flat head machine screws) to 3"
bolts that go through the aluminum and bolted from the other side.

  Digital Pic's and diagrams are available for anyone interested.

  Christos Katehis
  Kasia #383 New York
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: RReitz6289 at aol.com
    To: Public-list at alberg30.org
    Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 8:18 PM
    Subject: [Alberg30] Help- Tin Canning Bow


    While placing my Friend " Dances With Waves " #457, on the hard for the
winter. The yard master discovered, and I conformed, that the forward part
of the port bow is seperating from the deck. The toe rail is about 1/2 to
3/4 inches above the deck. The area had been filled with caulk which is now
drying and falling out. I can oil can the top section of the hull about 1/4
inch, for a distance of from 6 inches aft of the bow for a distance of about
30 to 36 inches. To eliminate the possibility of water entering between the
toe rail and the hull, and possibly freezing over the winter, I have covered
the area with plastic and duct tape
    My thoughts are that I will have to remove the toe rail, scrape away all
caulking, press the hull against the inner hull and fasten it to the deck in
some manner, probably screwing, then covering the area with fibreglas and
epoxy, finishing the job by reseating the toe rail.

    Has anyone had a similar problem? How did they  ahndle it ? What does
the group feel about my solution? Can anyone think of problems I might
encounter? I am wide open to suggestions.

    Thank you,
    Ralph Reitz
    Dances With Waves #457
    Sea Bright New Jersey

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