[Alberg30] A 30 Trailers and boat Weight

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Subj:   RE: A 30 Trailers   
Date:   9/12/02 5:44:01 PM US Eastern Standard Time 
From:   <A HREF="mailto:Richard.Hansen at carlisle.army.mil">Richard.Hansen at carlisle.army.mil</A>    
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Michael, 
As time permits, your thoughts to below please.  
Also does your trailer have a bow and or stern support? (The trailer I 
designed has only a bow support, no stern support) 
Finally, how do we work options/upgrades with your builder...through you or 
direct?  If direct, via email or phone?  Thanks. (You should work directly 
thru the builder via telehpone)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: RABBIT649 at aol.com [mailto:RABBIT649 at aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:32 PM
> To: Richard.Hansen at carlisle.army.mil
> Subject: Re: A 30 Trailers
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> Well. a 14,000 lb rating for a 13,280 lb load does not seem like 
> overdesign, but then I'm not an engineer. I know that some things are rated 
> at a percentage of the maximum load under dynamic conditions and that 
> simple static numerical comparisons like the above wouldn't apply. Michael 
> designed his trailer. Perhaps he could tell us why he felt he could get 
> away with two 6000 lb axles for a 13,280 lb load. 
> Michael? 
> Paul Cicchetti 
> #23 Ashwagh 
> 
> Hello all,
I am leaving today for another week trip,but would like to make a few 
comments,  I will send pics to Richard at a later date.

1)  I asked the marina to weigh my boat when it was on the travelall and they 
said that it weighed 11,000 lbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.  All the literature I 
have read on the A 30 mentions 9,000 lbs displacement.  I had the trailer 
designed abound the 9,000 Lbs figure.  Plehaps other can jump in here and 
tell us the known weight of their A 30's.

I was bacially shocked and peeing in my pants when I asked him again if that 
was correct 11,000 lbs.  My trailer weights 2800 and the GVRW equals 13,200, 
so I was to be 600 lbs overweight instead of 1,400 lbs underweight as I had 
calculated.

My advice to all is, weight your boats and if they are similar to mine, 
11,000 lbs and you plan on using the tandem axle system then go to the 7,000 
lbs axles.

At this point I don't know what to believe the printed literature on the A 30 
or the weight reported by my marina.  The boat is fibreglas and has been out 
of the water for a year..........were did all that extra weight come 
from??????

2) When I loaded the boat on the trailer the trailer made no sound at 
all........that is a good thing.  The tyres did not seem over loaded.  We 
adjusted the boat on the trailer to set the tongue loading.  I then leveled 
the load with the torsion bars and attached the anti sway bar and installed 
three straps around the boat to the trailer.

3)  We made the 250 miles trip in eight hours with no incidents.  The boat 
trailed behind the 1982 GMC dually pick-up perfectly.  On the turny twisty 
back roads of Ohio I traveled 35 mph and on the interstate I drove 45 mph.  I 
slowed to a crawl over any on grade railroad crossings and generally was very 
conservative with my driving.  I installed two orange caution flags as well 
as a "slow moving vehicle triangle" on the rear of the trailer and only had 
one motorist honk at me, angry because I was moving so slow.  I pulled off 
occasionally to allow other behind me to pass.

4)  The final cost of my trailer and hitch setup was $7,200.  When I compare 
that to the Triad Trailer with 7,000 lbs axles and the same options I arrive 
at $8,020.  A difference of  $810 which would easliy be eaten up by the 
upgrade to 7,000 lbs axles and 14 ply tyres.

5)  I would say to those on the list to go with Triad and try to obtain a 
group order discount.  You may do the same or better in the long run than I 
have.  

6)  I am very satisfied with my trailer, I have gotten many complements on it 
and it did the job well for me.  I am concerned about the extra weight of the 
boat.

7)  I did design a nifty arrangement to haul the mast and boom low on the 
side of the trailer and used a plug in extra trail light for the end of the 
mast.

8)  When I have more time I would like to share some photos of the rig with 
the A 30 group so that they can see what I have done and perhaps incorporate 
some of the design featurs in their trailers. 

Michael Connolly  #131


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