[Alberg30] Raised Main Cabin Bunks

[Roger L. Kingsland]

Larry;

Considering I have about 40 items on my to do list just to get the boat back
in the water, your first point is a good one.  However, design of boat
layout is a hobby of mine and it is a pleasant break from rubbing and
scraping.

I think you are incorrect on your second point, however.  I mocked up a seat
last night and, even with my swelled head, shoulder clearance is the
controlling factor (one seat faces forward, one aft).  With a seat 16" above
the current bunk height (I was hoping to get 18"), my shoulder comfortably
clears the underside of the deck while I have about 4" from the top of my
head to the underside of the cabin.  Perhaps that was your point.  The view
out the ports is still excellent though.

I might squander some more time from real work this weekend and build it out
of plywood so I can post a video for everyone to "visualize."

Film at 11:00,

Roger
#184




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Morris" <larmor at myexcel.com>
To: "Alberg 30 public list" <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Raised Main Cabin Bunks


> Roger,
>
> Just remember Beer can play tricks with the mind.  Does the pphrase "If it
> ain't broke don't fix it" come to mind.  Remember your headroom is
dictated
> by the side deck not the coach roof.
>
> Larry
> Solstice #501
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger L. Kingsland <rkingsland101 at ksba.com>
> To: Alberg 30 public list <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:28 PM
> Subject: [Alberg30] Raised Main Cabin Bunks
>
>
> > Since we all are probably all frustrated navel architects, I thought I
> would
> > float what might be a stupid idea out to everyone for feedback.
> >
> > I have been perplexed as to why the bunks in the main cabin on A30s are
so
> > low (at least those in #148).  They are several inches below accepted
> > ergonomic standards and it would seem that raising them would allow for
> more
> > storage underneath.  Also, the bunks are too low to be able to see out
> > (pilot house style) those wounderful "picture windows" while seated.
> >
> > I had a few beers on board yesterday (a good reason to suspect the
validy
> of
> > the idea) and determined the optimum seat height to see out of the main
> > cabin ports is just a few inches lower than the galley counter and table
> > height (they are about the same height).  This height would allow the
> > opportunity to install a two person fore n' aft, "booth" on the
starboard
> > side (I have a refrigerator with the door facing forward on port so I
can
> > only raise that bunk about 6" before the door bumps into the cushion).
> >
> > The middle third of the current starboard bunk area could be a table
(that
> > would mount directly below the locker door), and the end thirds could be
> > seats.  Each would align with one of the three storage doors above. The
> > table could drop down to form a high, single bunk at seat level.  The
> users
> > feet (under the table) would rest on the on the current bunk base so
there
> > could be room for a drawer under.  The advantages are I could have a sit
> > down nav station, great dining for two (I might be able to devise pull
out
> > seats for two more) and a "base cabinet" under each seat (gobs more
> > storage).
> >
> > I could probably put a tank (beer keg) or tool storage under the aft
seat
> > with microwave or cooler above it.  With optimum seat height a few
inches
> > below galley counter height, the back rest could fold down to form extra
> > counter space (to replace the fold up counter there now).  Since the
> forward
> > seat is partially behind the starboard side fore/aft bulkhead, I might
> want
> > to access that storage from the seat (or install a tank).
> >
> > One downside is the bunk heights will differ by about a foot which
should
> > not matter so much if I can figure out how to seat 4 at the table for
> meals,
> > games etc. I might even mock up the solution in plywood to see how it
> feels.
> >
> > For anyone interested, what do you think?
> >
> > Roger Kingsland
> >
> > Mahina Manu, A30 #148
> > On the hard at N40-29.284, W79-53.854
> >
> > (412) 252-1500 x101 office
> > (412) 779-5101 cell
> > rkingsland101 at ksba.com
> >
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