[Alberg30] Positive Stability Range

Wed Mar 5 13:02:18 PST 2003

Alfredo said: "If someone had told me in HS that geometry is used to 
determine sail area, I probably would have paid attention during class."

Is that kinda like "If I knew I was going to live this long, I would have 
taken better care of myself". Mark Twain

Mike Lehman
"Gilleleje" #505

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Subject: RE: [Alberg30] Positive Stability Range
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:38:15 -0800 (PST)

If someone had told me in HS that geometry is used to determine sail area, I 
probably would have paid attention during class.
Thanks again for all the input. This is really fun.
Alfredo
  Dave Terrell <DTERRELL at message.nmc.edu> wrote:My 40 year geometry suggest 
the following

The fore triangle is a right triangle. This allows one to calculate the 
unknown side using the pythagorean theorm. A squared + b squarded = c 
squared. If A is 10.5 (J) and B is 36 (I), C is 37. 5. If I remember the 
discussion from last year correctly we determined that the real forstay 
length was in the range of 36' 8" or 36' 10" depending on the fitting one 
has at the deck level

.05 % of the hypothetical forestay length squared gives 70.3 square feet for 
the storm sail

.05 % of the real forestay length squared gives 67.7 square feet for the 
storm sail - assuming a forestay length of 36' 10"
I converted the 10 inches to decimals.

My figures are a bit higher than Cole's figures but I am not sure why - 
probably because one does not really use all the acutal length of the 
forestay in a real sail and so one should not use the whole length of the 
forestay for calculation purposes. I any case it's fun to actually use HS 
math sometimes even if I missed something here.

 >>> GreekSailor at worldnet.att.net 03/05/03 02:17PM >>>
The forestay length is the "I" measurement of the sail plan which is 36'.

Kasia #383

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Thanks everyone.
I'm reading about storm sails(Coles' Heavy weather Sailing). It suggest the
Trysail to be no more than a third of the area of the main. In our case 73
sq feet. And the Storm Jib about 5% of forestay lenght sqared. Any idea
about the forestay lenght?
Thanks again.
Alfredo
George Dinwiddie wrote: Alfredo wrote:
 > Greetings,
 >
 > Does anyone happen to know the positive stability range of the Alberg
 > 30?

Back in 1994, Jack Hornor estimated the positive stability range to a
bit under 120 degrees. Judging from the graph he gave out, I'd say
about 118 degrees.

 > Also, I know the total working canvas area of our boats. But, what's
 > the area of just the main?

The sailplan (http://www.alberg30.org/boat/A30sailplan.jpg) shows a
figure of 221 sq. ft. for the main. The fore triangle is 189 sq. ft.

- George

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