[Alberg30] More on Tanks
Roger L. Kingsland
rkingsland101 at ksba.com
Wed Oct 22 12:05:14 PDT 2003
Thanks Gord,
The vibration thing makes sense. Any foot problems after using your foot
bath?
Roger L. Kingsland, AIA
Managing Partner
Kingsland Scott Bauer Associates (KSBA)
N40° 27' 49" W79° 57' 59"
3441 Butler Street
Pittsburgh, PA 15201
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon LACO" <mainstay at csolve.net>
To: "Alberg 30 public list" <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Alberg30] More on Tanks
> Hi Roger and gang...
>
> Rigid plumbing is not used much because it copes so poorly with vibration.
> It is possible to build in lengths of tube that facilitate movement, but
the
> added connections increase the likelihood of gas or liquid leaks... and
can
> double the cost of an installation.
>
> To return to the inflatable issue... I was considering laying one in the
> water tank forward as the built in tank makes a very good bed for an
> inflatable. I chose not to do it mostly because I discovered that what
> looked like a footbath in the liner under my cabin sole was in reality a
> holding tank without the lid. I have the lid now and will use that.
>
> Gord
> #426 Surprise
>
>
> on 10/22/03 1:51 PM, Roger L. Kingsland at rkingsland101 at ksba.com wrote:
>
> > I think the pipe problem could be solved by hard plumbing with rigid PVC
> > pipe. There is enough slope below bunk level to get positive drainage
and
> > the inside of the pipe is smooth (besides, I have a neighbor who is a
> > plumber). That begs the question, why isn't hard plumbing used more?
Any
> > thoughts, any one?
> >
> > Assuming that problem can be solved, then the question is what is the
> > difference between a water tank and holding tank and would it be
possible to
> > convert. For example, would a pressure test (if so, how much, how long)
> > help determine adaptability of a tank?
> >
> > Lastly, imagine a 35 gallon holding tank! I could chauffer affluent
around
> > the Chesapeake Bay all season, stopping only for the occasional Perrier
> > delivery (they do deliver, don't they?).
> >
> > Roger Kingsland
> >
> >
> > Roger L. Kingsland, AIA
> > Managing Partner
> > Kingsland Scott Bauer Associates (KSBA)
> > N40° 27' 49" W79° 57' 59"
> > 3441 Butler Street
> > Pittsburgh, PA 15201
> > www.ksba.com
> >
> > 1(412) 252-1500 X101 - Office & Voice Mail
> > 1(412) 779-5101 - Mobile (no voice mail)
> > 1(412) 252-1510 - Fax
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gordon LACO" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> > To: "Alberg 30 public list" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 12:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Alberg30] More on Tanks
> >
> >
> >> I agree... hoses are often the source of bad smells in otherwise well
done
> >> installations. I also agree with the earlier writer about inflatable
> >> tanks... the consequences of trouble are too great to make it a good
risk
> > to
> >> my mind; the plug I gave to Vetus tanks notwithstanding.
> >>
> >> Gord
> >> #426 Surprise
> >>
> >>
> >> on 10/22/03 12:34 PM, Hiesener, Michael at hiesenerm at stripes.osd.mil
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Roger,
> >>>
> >>> I do not believe you would want to convert a water tank to a waste
> > holding
> >>> tank. A water tank is not designed to be used as a holding tank. You
> > will
> >>> want to purchase a new tank.
> >>>
> >>> The area under the port side v berth works well... the drawback is
that
> > you
> >>> lose that area for storage. One of the problems of using the area
> > where
> >>> the forward water tank currently resides is that you would end up with
a
> >>> long hose run from the head to the holding tank...You do not want
waste
> >>> sitting in the hose. Using the area under the port v berth allows you
> > to
> >>> have a short run of hose from the head to the tank.
> >>>
> >>> We recently did this on a early model boat without a liner. Feel free
> > to
> >>> contact me with any questions.
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> Terrapin #254
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Roger L. Kingsland [mailto:rkingsland101 at ksba.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 12:19 PM
> >>> To: Alberg30
> >>> Subject: [Alberg30] More on Tanks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to all for feedback on flex tanks. Sounds too risky
particularly
> >>> when dealing with holding tanks. Which gets me to the next question.
> > Any
> >>> thoughts on the feasibility of converting the forward water tank to a
> >>> holding tank?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Roger L. Kingsland, AIA
> >>> Managing Partner
> >>> Kingsland Scott Bauer Associates (KSBA)
> >>> N40° 27' 49" W79° 57' 59"
> >>> 3441 Butler Street
> >>> Pittsburgh, PA 15201
> >>> www.ksba.com
> >>>
> >>> 1(412) 252-1500 X101 - Office & Voice Mail
> >>> 1(412) 779-5101 - Mobile (no voice mail)
> >>> 1(412) 252-1510 - Fax
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