[Alberg30] Paint Prep Advice

[Roger L. Kingsland]

Gord;

Thanks for the advice on filler.  I have already done the hull to deck
joint, exposed glass areas and even the minor scratches with Marine Tex.
(The hull to deck joint had no delamination at all and it is now a finished,
right angle joint with no exposed edges.  In addition to the 3/16" SS rivets
4" OC, the bolts I will use to hold down the new toe rail will reinforce the
joint.)  I just need the filler to fill in undulations  no deeper than the
depth of the gel coat.

One problem is it is hard to see the undulations because the current, sanded
finish is so dull.  Is it advisable to paint one coat of primer (hopefully
with some gloss to it) to discover the "fairing flaws" then remove the paint
to fix the problems.  Back in my construction days we used to do this with
drywall.

Also, your catalogue mentions "gunmetal," is that "English" for bronze?

Thanks for all of your help.

Roger

Roger Kingsland
rkingsland101 at ksba.com
Chief Financial Officer (AKA, check writer)
Mahina Manu, A30 #148
N40°  29.288'
W79°  54.228'

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon LACO" <mainstay at csolve.net>
To: "Alberg 30 public list" <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Paint Prep Advice


> Hi there -
>
> I have developed some preferences for filler during my wooden boat days...
> and carried some over to the Alberg.
>
> For major fairing and deep scratches I use West epoxy filled to a paste
with
> with their recommended white filler (once I used Coffee Mate and it worked
> very well).   Epoxy is hard to sand though so in the interests of speed I
> used auto body filler.
>
> Stop screaming everybody....
>
> It does work well so long as you only use it for minor fairing and in
places
> where you do not require strength from it.  The best thing about it is the
> fact that since you do not have to sand so much to fair it, there is much
> less chance that you will damage other areas or go through gel coat.  IE
it
> is fine to fill scratches and such, but not so good at the hull to deck
> where there may be some movement in the future.
>
> Gord
> #426 Surprise
>
>
>
>
>
>
> on 9/22/03 7:04 AM, Roger L. Kingsland at rkingsland101 at ksba.com wrote:
>
> > Albergers,
> >
> > I am in the final stages (at least I hope I am) of paint prep for #148
and
> > wonder if there is a material I can use as a "fairing compound" to fill
in
> > areas of undulations in the hull and deck. In some spots I have used the
TLR
> > ([Tool of Last Resort), my belt sander, and sanded past the gel coat)
> >
> > To date I have used some epoxy (mostly to fill the counter sunk holes
for the
> > 186 SS, 3/16 pop rivets I added to the hull/deck joint) and a bunch of
Marine
> > Tex.  While strong, Marine Tex is hard to apply with a putty knife (I
ended up
> > filling scratches using a syringe and creating a ridge which can be
sanded
> > more easily than a feathered joint).
> >
> > Ideally I would like to find a material the consistency of drywall mud
that
> > would stick to Marine Tex and gel coat and hold up under paint.  I have
seen
> > gel coat compound in my marina store but it looks like it is just for
patching
> > scratches.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Roger Kingsland
> > Chief Financial Officer (AKA, check writer)
> > Mahina Manu, A30 #148
> > N40°  29.288'
> > W79°  54.228'
> >
> > Author's Disclaimer; This email was produced exclusively by the sender
and, in
> > the interest of expediency, without the benefit of editing by others.
The
> > sender, thank goodness, is a much better architect/sailor than
speller/editor
> > and, frankly, constantly laments an obvious flaw in "spell check," it
does not
> > know what the author is thinking.  Please accept the sender's sincere
> > apologies for any "typos" that may appear in this document.  If present,
they
> > are certainly unintended and hopefully do not cloud the message, or
spawn any
> > unnecessary lawsuits.
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