[Public-list] MY 1968 pre liner bilge

[sousa, stephen (ENG)]

Gord,

We have the same dinghy and according to Boston Whaler it weights 150 lbs.
This is the heaviest 150 lbs we ever lifted.

Stephen

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Hello Mike - 

I agree - I do not believe that there is any way to be sure that the foam
will not eventually become saturated.

Gord #426 Surprise (whose dinghy is a Boston Whaler Squall - great boat but
heavy...)






> Here's a personal experience I had with a foam-filled boat. You know 
> how they advertise Boston Whalers to be unsinkable because they are 
> foam filled? Remember seeing the ads where they cut a boat into thirds 
> and all the pieces still float? (I'm not sure why that attracts anyone 
> to buy the boat - I would never cut my boat into thirds!) What does 
> happen, I found out, was if water gets into the hull and foam the boat 
> becomes very, very heavy. Ah! But you say, the foam is closed-cell and 
> doesn't absorb water!! While this may be true intially, after a few 
> freeze-thaw cycles, I have found that the foam becomes absorbant and 
> acts like a huge sponge. I wrote to the Boston Whaler folks and they 
> sent me a complete set of printed instructions on how to fix the 
> problem (think this has ever happened to anyone else?). The 
> instructions started out by flipping my 17' Whaler over and cutting 
> out large sections of the hull so I could dig all of the water-laden 
> foam out...I sold the boat. They buyer was told that the foam had 
> become water logged and replied: "No problem, a lot of them have 
> that".
> 
> Just a word of caution from a personal experience.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Lehman
> "Gilleleje" #505
> 
> ~~~_/)_/) ~_/) ~~
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 00:08:54 -0400
> 
> Bill,
> When I had my engine out in my 1968 pre liner bilge i also had about a 
> foot of silica type sand stuff in the bottom of the bilge in the V 
> shaped section.  I did not have any sort of covering of fiberglass or 
> any material over the sand.  I just had smelly oily sand.  Perhaps in 
> an attempt to seal off the oily bilge smell or some other reason? 
> someone poured a new floor over the sandy stuff??  In my 1968 boat the 
> bilge under the engine and the small bilges under the cabin sole are 
> not connected.  They are sealed of with a wooded wall between the 
> engine bilge and the smaller bilges.  With a drain hole cut so any 
> water in the forward bilge (or sand) is washed back into the maine 
> engine bilge. Why would you want to fill your bilge up with expanding 
> foam?  In my experience expanding foam in an out doors type 
> application when left on its own and not protected from water etc. 
> turns dark orangeish brown and starts to deteriorate.  Perhaps you should
just wait until you can take your engine
> out sometime and then just clean out your bilge.   I would rather clean
sand
> out of a bilge then expanding foam.  Also think of your re-sale value 
> and trying to explain to someone that you filled the bilge with 
> expanding foam. The floor over the sand does not make any sense to me.  
> I do not believe the sand to be functional since I found tools and 
> bolts way down at the bottom of the bilge under all the sand.  Meaning 
> that it collected somehow over time.  Your bilge is basically just the 
> entire inside of your keel which is very solid fiberglass.  Maybe the 
> missing section of the false floor is not really an issue? I hope this 
> helps some, Matthew #314 1968  "Renard"
> 
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