[Public-list] Alberg 30 Quiz

[John Irving]

Gord wrote:

"But man o man I wish Whitby had left the fractional rig and lead
ballast! (sorry)"

Just curious... why would they be preferred on the A30?


On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 07:33:34 -0500, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
> Hi there -
> 
> That thing is called a 'boom claw' and the sail rolls up inside it.  There
> is no worry about sliding because that type of vang is meant to pull
> straight down to a pad eye or stanchion base on the deck.   It was usefull
> because you could move it along the boom so it pulled down from directly
> over whatever you shackled the fall of the tackle too...and it also worked
> as a preventer.  On the negative side, you had to adjust it every time you
> moved the mainsheet - and while gybing you had no vang at all and could hang
> the boom up on the backstay.
> 
> Re: Whitby Folkboats...yes they did build them - and they were distinctly
> diff from the later Contessa 26.  Whitby started off importing wooden
> Folkboats from Denmark (my beloved #16 Touch Wood among them) and got into
> building with the glass versions of those terrific boats.  There was a large
> fleet of them on Lake Ontario whose owners went to Whitby with a
> specification for a larger boat that was to have similar sea keeping
> qualities - the result was the Alberg 30.  But man o man I wish Whitby had
> left the fractional rig and lead ballast! (sorry)  My uncle Con Costas built
> rigs for both the Whitby Folkboat and the Albergs until he passed away in
> '72.  He ran the rigging shop at Tom Taylor Co. which was then the largest
> yacht outfitting operation in North America - I tried to fill his shoes
> there from '80 to when they finally closed in '85.
> 
> Gord #426 Surprise
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > George and Mike,
> > Guess that it is pretty hard to stump either of you two.  I am curious, were
> > these devices commercially available during the time our boats were newer or
> > did owners have to custom make something like this to attach a vang?
> > First thing I noticed about my boat is no vang.  I have boom roller furling,
> > which is nice and convenient, I suppose.  Always wondered how to attach vang
> > and still be able to furl.
> >
> > What would keep the device in place on the boom?  Friction?  Would that not
> > mess up the furled sailcloth?  Perhaps something is missing.
> > Michael
> >
> > George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org> wrote:
> > Michael & Dan,
> >
> > Not only are there two Albergs in the middle of Indiana, but their
> > skippers both traveled to Annapolis to race on the same A30 on
> > consecutive weekends.
> >
> > The list is set to strip binary attachments, to prevent distributing
> > viruses, so I've posted your photo at
> > http://www.alberg30.org/maintenance/disorganized/RollerReefingVangAttachment.j
> > pg
> >
> > Recall that these boats originally used roller reefing rather than slab
> > reefing. That means that you can't have hardware attached to the boom.
> > In order to put a vang on the boom, you slid one of these contraptions
> > down the boom with the sail in the slot between the "rollers." Then you
> > could wind the main up on the boom within the circle.
> >
> > - George
> >
> > Michael Connolly wrote:
> >> Hello, Last Saturday I spent a delightful day meeting Dan Walker -
> >> #145 Rascal and looking at each others boats. It is still amazing to
> >> me that here are two Alberg 30's within 18 miles of each other in
> >> land-locked central Indiana!! If stories counted ................we
> >> must have sailed a thousand miles that day..........very pleasant.
> >>
> >> Dan helped me measure my mast and boom. These dimensions are for the
> >> aluminum extrusions only; mast 34' 9-1/4" boom 14' 3".
> >>
> >> Now for the Quiz. When anyone these days purchases an Alberg 30 the
> >> new owner always gets a box of "mystery stuff". Sometimes the seller
> >> is forthright and tells you where it is and sometimes it is a
> >> surprise 'find' discovered months after you get the boat home. In
> >> Dan's "mystery stuff" box were many items most of which we could
> >> identify.
> >>
> >> One item stumped us. Attached is a pict. This is a very nicely hand
> >> made 'Gadget'. The white u-shaped section is a sandwich of two
> >> aluminum plates and epoxy resin, then wrapped with white vinyl tape.
> >> The rollers are of the polyurethane non-marking type, spaced about
> >> 3/4" apart and do not rotate. A shackle is attached at the apex of
> >> the u-shape.
> >>
> >> All suggestions of what this might be are welcome. Please keep your
> >> responses clean as our children read this list.
> >>
> >> Michael #133 Lorrie Rose
> >>
> >>
> >>
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