[Public-list] bunk details

[Roger L. Kingsland]

Michael,

I reread your first epistle and discovered you were not talking about the V
berth forward but the main cabin berths.

On that subject, I recall chartering boats where one bunk would have a
double plywood base (under the cushions) and the top one would slide out and
lock in place to expand the single to a double.  Because of the offset to
starboard, I guess this would work best on the port bunk but might need to
be a little short if the companionway steps get in the way.  The space
between the bunks is 22" which I believe is narrower than the flat part of
the bunk so this approach might work.

I have done some section sketches showing a possible edge detail that would
work for a plywood infill in either cabin.  It can be found at this link
http://home.att.net/~jinnii/roger/perfect/pi_designs.html, click on the Main
Cabin Bunk Idea Icon.

Roger Kingsland

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Connolly" <crufone at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] "No V-berth", she says. What's the alternative?
>
>
> > Roger,
> > I guess that I would rather use a piano hinge so that the platform would
> fold in half for storage.  One could, in addition, have a fore and aft
> section each that would also fold in half.  Thus the folding platforms
might
> be only 18" by 36" by 2" thick. One would have two of these that could
more
> easily be stored on board.  I was imagining this arrangement to be set up
> only when needed at sleep time and then disassembled and put up when
> underway.  When set up it would make it very ackward to get around the
main
> cabin.
> >
> > Oh yes, another possibility would be to make two panels of appropriate
> length, that would be supported by cross members in either cleats or
> brackets.  These panels could then be stored under the seatee cushions one
> on each side and the cross members in the drawers underneath the seatees?

> >
> > The major consideration in my book would be to design the support
brackets
> on the inside of the seatee trim to not be dangerious protrusions that
could
> cause injury when not in use.
> >
> > I am sure that others on this list have worked this arrangement out and
> can comment further.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > "Roger L. Kingsland" <rkingsland101 at ksba.com> wrote:
> > Michael,
> >
> > One thought I had but have not confirmed is doable is to hinge the panel
> at
> > the forward end so it can be placed in a vertical position when someone
> > wants to exit the berth. Of course, in that position, it would get wider
> as
> > it gets taller and the question is would it block access to the forward
> ends
> > of the V berths too much.
> >
> > I saw a photograph somewhere of the removable cabin table stored against
> the
> > overhead at the forward end of the V berth. This could also be a good
> place
> > to store "the wedge." If I ever install an anchor locker hatch at the
> > pointy end, it will be possible to use this space (above your feet) for
> > additional shelf or locker space which could go down to about 14" above
> the
> > cushion and extend about 18" aft of the forward bulkhead.
> >
> > Roger Kingsland
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Michael Connolly"
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Public-list] "No V-berth", she says. What's the
alternative?
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > I was thinking about fabricating a removable filler between the two
main
> > cabin berths. Was planning on using table brackets mounted on both trim
> > pieces on the outside of each of the berths, (wooden cleats could also
be
> > installed). A sturdy panel would then be supported on each side by the
> > table brackets. Main issue is how to store the panel and mattress when
not
> > in use.
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > Gail DeMoss wrote:
> > > Some A30 owners have inserted a "fill", in the main cabin, across the
> > > cabin to connect the two seats. The back cushions are then used to
make
> > > the "double bed". Maybe someone who has done this can explain it
better.
> > >
> > > I am not crazy about the V-berth for sleeping. Too hard to get in and
> > > out and I am always whacking my head, elbows, knees or sticking a foot
> > > in Georges back, face, stomach, etc.
> > >
> > > Gail Dinwiddie
> > > Calypso #543
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Kennedy wrote:
> > > > My spouse remarked the other day that "I will NOT sleep in a V-berth
> > again!"
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone make some useful suggestions on double-sized sleeping
> > > > arrangements, preferably of the aft-cabin sort, and the boats that
> > surround
> > > > them?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, everyone.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > >
> > > >
> > >
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