[Public-list] "No V-berth", she says. What's the alternative?

Fri Oct 29 05:57:10 PDT 2004

Roger,
Looks like a comfortable platform.
Michael

"Roger L. Kingsland" <rkingsland101 at ksba.com> wrote:
Michael,

I couldn't have said it better, the A30 is a beautiful boat. Some day I
would like to retire to a boat and do some gentlemanly cursing. For that
adventure I was thinking about this boat
http://www.chriswhitedesigns.com/atlantic55/trinidad.php. Of course, by the
time I can afford it I might have to opt for a hospital ship.

Roger

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Connolly" 
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" 

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] "No V-berth", she says. What's the alternative?

> Roger,
> You are asking the wrong guy.
>
> I would say in jest that if you are looking for a sailboat that sails well
and looks fine in the process then your Alberg 30 or any CCA formula boat is
a good choice.
>
> If you are looking for a queen bed that sorta sails and is lacking classic
aesthetics then your modern Catalina or Hunter would be your choice. Lots
of newer designs offer 'queen beds'.
>
> I don't mean to be offensive but the former is my cup of tea. I have no
interest in the modern wider designs no matter how many 'creature comforts'
are afforded.
>
> My interest in owning/operating a sailboat is that she is 'handsome',
'stout', 'seakindly' and 'seaworthy'. All the rest I will work around.
>
> The Alberg 30 works for me.
>
> Michael
>
> "Roger L. Kingsland" wrote:
> Speaking of wider boats, dosen't Hunter now have a model with 3 cabins
with
> queen size beds under the cockpit?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Connolly"
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] "No V-berth", she says. What's the alternative?
>
>
> > Mike,
> > I suppose that proposition was in your prenuptial
> agreement.....................otherwise....... :-o, :-o
> >
> > Might just be easier to purchase one of those 'wider' boats and let the

> Albergs be for the more adventuresome skinny people.
> > Michael
> >
> > Mike Lehman wrote:
> > Tell her to sleep in the cockpit. One cold night, with rain and
mosquitos
> > and she will gladly slepp in the v-berth again.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Lehman
> > ><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: Michael Connolly
> > Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Public-list] "No V-berth", she says. What's the
alternative?
> > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:57:21 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Roger,
> > I guess that I would rather use a piano hinge so that the platform would
> > fold in half for storage. One could, in addition, have a fore and aft
> > section each that would also fold in half. Thus the folding platforms
> might
> > be only 18" by 36" by 2" thick. One would have two of these that could
> more
> > easily be stored on board. I was imagining this arrangement to be set up
> > only when needed at sleep time and then disassembled and put up when
> > underway. When set up it would make it very ackward to get around the
main
> > cabin.
> >
> > Oh yes, another possibility would be to make two panels of appropriate
> > length, that would be supported by cross members in either cleats or
> > brackets. These panels could then be stored under the seatee cushions
one
> > on each side and the cross members in the drawers underneath the
seatees?
> >
> > The major consideration in my book would be to design the support
brackets
> > on the inside of the seatee trim to not be dangerious protrusions that
> could
> > cause injury when not in use.
> >
> > I am sure that others on this list have worked this arrangement out and
> can
> > comment further.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > "Roger L. Kingsland" wrote:
> > Michael,
> >
> > One thought I had but have not confirmed is doable is to hinge the panel
> at
> > the forward end so it can be placed in a vertical position when someone
> > wants to exit the berth. Of course, in that position, it would get wider
> as
> > it gets taller and the question is would it block access to the forward
> ends
> > of the V berths too much.
> >
> > I saw a photograph somewhere of the removable cabin table stored against
> the
> > overhead at the forward end of the V berth. This could also be a good
> place
> > to store "the wedge." If I ever install an anchor locker hatch at the
> > pointy end, it will be possible to use this space (above your feet) for
> > additional shelf or locker space which could go down to about 14" above
> the
> > cushion and extend about 18" aft of the forward bulkhead.
> >
> > Roger Kingsland
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Connolly"
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Public-list] "No V-berth", she says. What's the
alternative?
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > I was thinking about fabricating a removable filler between the two
main
> > cabin berths. Was planning on using table brackets mounted on both trim
> > pieces on the outside of each of the berths, (wooden cleats could also
be
> > installed). A sturdy panel would then be supported on each side by the
> > table brackets. Main issue is how to store the panel and mattress when
not
> > in use.
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > Gail DeMoss wrote:
> > > Some A30 owners have inserted a "fill", in the main cabin, across the
> > > cabin to connect the two seats. The back cushions are then used to
make
> > > the "double bed". Maybe someone who has done this can explain it
better.
> > >
> > > I am not crazy about the V-berth for sleeping. Too hard to get in and
> > > out and I am always whacking my head, elbows, knees or sticking a foot
> > > in Georges back, face, stomach, etc.
> > >
> > > Gail Dinwiddie
> > > Calypso #543
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Kennedy wrote:
> > > > My spouse remarked the other day that "I will NOT sleep in a V-berth
> > again!"
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone make some useful suggestions on double-sized sleeping
> > > > arrangements, preferably of the aft-cabin sort, and the boats that
> > surround
> > > > them?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, everyone.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > >
> > > >
> > >
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