[Public-list] Lexan or Acrylic ?
Gary Barker
gbarker at swfla.rr.com
Tue Sep 28 08:06:47 PDT 2004
Soon after we purchased our boat, we replaced the large ports with Lexan.
Here are a few observations:
1. It took us about 1/2 day per port to complete.
2. Use the approved adhesive sealer for the Lexan. We purchased a bronze
tint Lexan and the
dealer had a matching adhesive.
3. The original plastic was cut much smaller than the opening it fit into.
This appeared to be due to the
fact that as Stephen mentioned, the openings are all different. We custom
cut each one to fit the opening,
but I cleaned the openings up with a grinder first to remove old adhesive
and smooth out the rough edges.
4. I left the protective cover on the Lexan during cutting, and when
installing I peeled back the edges only.
This helped keep the excess adhesive off the rest of the piece.
5. Since the frames bolt through the cabin and the window actually "floats"
in between them, I used small
nylon nuts as spacers to keep it centered between the frames. I used 6 per
port spaced around the edges.
These are small enough to be completely embedded in the adhesive.
6. We taped EVERYTHING. When we had bolted the frames together, we removed
the tape while adhesive
was still wet. This left a very clean edge.
7. This job is very messy and tedious. Allow lots of time.
The bottom line is that after 8 years, we have no cracks or leaks from these
ports and the adhesive shows no sign
of deterioration.
Gary Barker
Blarney #563
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One thing I found on our boat, the cut outs in the cabin were slightly
different from port to port.
Stephen
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[mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
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>From our experiences replacing ports - it is a good idea to make copies
>from
the one that can out of the boat. Whitby made minor changes from
boat-to-boat.
Mike Lehman
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:34:37 -0400
James,
I will contact my Lexan guy and confirm price and smoke. Cost to UPS 10
pounds (guess) to Middletown is under $6. Do you want to send me templates
from your boat or have him use mine from #148? All of my small and large
lights are the same size.
I have not done a boom crutch but have thought of doing a folding one
(upside down V) with the legs resting on either the aft ends of the cockpit
seats or the outside sides of the aft end of the cockpit sole. Former would
allow better access to the poop deck but may have stability problems. Both
would impair access to lazarette.
I to would like to hear from those who have been there (since I, for now, am
just a would like to go there guy ).
Roger L. Kingsland, AIA
Managing Partner
Kingsland Scott Bauer Associates (KSBA)
N40° 27' 49" W79° 57' 59"
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Pittsburgh, PA 15201
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From: "James Schueler" <jschueler at familyempowerment.org>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 10:13 AM
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> Roger,
>
> I'd be interested if you don't mind. I would like smoked lexan > instead
of clear and would need to know the shipping charges to > Middletown, NY.
That's about 70 miles north of NYC. > > Also, has anyone ever made a
cradle for the boom? Before I try > to come up with a workable design I'd
like to hear from other Albergers > who may have already built one or
decided against it. > > Thanks, > > James Schueler > "Oddyseus" #170 >
> > > > > -----Original Message----- > From:
public-list-bounces at alberg30.org >
[mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Roger L. > Kingsland
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:50 AM > To: Alberg 30 Public List --
open to all > Subject: Re: [Public-list] Lexan or Acrylic ? > > This
summer I had a local glass company make new port lights with 1/4" > lexan
> (I did clear but it also comes in colored tints) using the old ones as a
> template. He did all eight for about $110 plus 7% tax. I would be >
happy to > ask him to make more if anyone is interested. > > Roger > >
Roger Kingsland > Chief Boat Boy > PERFECT intentions, A30 #148 > on the
hard at N40° 33.945' W79° 51.260' > > Author's Disclaimer; This email was
produced exclusively by the sender > and, > in the interest of expediency,
without the benefit of editing by others. > The sender, thank goodness, is
a much better architect/sailor than > speller/editor and, frankly,
constantly laments an obvious flaw in > "spell > check," it does not know
what the author is thinking. Please accept the > sender's sincere
apologies for any "typos" that may appear in this > document. > If
present, they are certainly unintended and hopefully do not cloud the >
message, or spawn any unnecessary lawsuits. > > > ----- Original Message
----- > From: "George Dinwiddie" <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org> > To: "Alberg
30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org> > Sent: Tuesday,
September 28, 2004 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Public-list] Lexan or Acrylic ?
> > > > One of these days I'll write up the portlight replacement we did
at > the > > Spring Maintenance Rendezvous. > > > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004
at 05:17:15PM -0400, David Timmins wrote: > > > Thanks everyone for your
input, looks like a even split > > > between the two materials. I have
posted a sampling of > > > your comments to the Alberg 22 Group. They can
draw > > > their own conclusions and chose the material that they feel > >
> most comfortable using. > > > A ban saw is defiantly the tool of choice
when cutting acrylic > > > When a full sized sheet has to be ripped, I've
noticed my guys > > > raising the table saw blade to it's full height to
help dissipate > > > the heat. > > > I think that I have this group to
thank for the "three tape" method > > > of bedding... pretty sure I read it
here. > > > I used that system with great success when bedding my > > >
port-lights and again, more recently, while re-bedding all my deck > > >
hardware during > > > Elusive's refit. > > > If I'm mistaken about the
source of this information , let me know > and > > > I'll > > > post
it... saved me from getting silicone and bedding material over > > >
everything. > > > David Timmins > > > Elusive AL 22 > >
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