[Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
Roger L. Kingsland
rkingsland101 at ksba.com
Tue Sep 7 08:42:38 PDT 2004
Thanks Mike, I think you and George have me convinced. It sure is great to
have everyone on the page around to keep this novice from making (fewer)
stupid mistakes. Your feedback is most appreciated.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
> This is an especially good article on MSDs in general, scroll down the
> article to read about holding tanks:
>
> http://boatbuilding.com/content/sanitation.html
>
> Here's more and, if I had more time I could find you more reasons.
>
> http://www.uaf.edu/seagrant/boatkeeper/heads.pdf
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>
>
>
> Mike Lehman
> ><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
>
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> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Roger L. Kingsland" <rkingsland101 at ksba.com>
> Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:35:59 -0400
>
> Mike,
>
> Could you direct me to some of the info you cite. I checked with both my
NA
> and a tank manufacturer I found on the web and they said aluminum was not
a
> problem. If I need to go w/ SS so be it, but the material cost about four
> times as much as aluminum (so, what else should one expect whaen owning a
> boat).
>
> Thanks, Roger
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
> To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
>
>
> > Roger,
> >
> > Don't use aluminum for waste holding tanks. There is loads of advice on
> the
> > web and loads of good reasoning why to avoid aluminum.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Lehman
> > ><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Roger L. Kingsland" <rkingsland101 at ksba.com>
> > Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
<public-list at alberg30.org>
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
> > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 09:54:45 -0400
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I agree with you RE taking measurements. If intended to go under the
aft
> > end of the of a V berth, that tank would not come close to fitting in
> #148
> > (1966, no liner). I am doing custom aluminum tanks and the best I can
do
> is
> > 18" deep and 18" port/starboard (about 27" fore/aft) for a tank that is
> > triangular in cross section. Plus, the shape in plan is a
parallelogram,
> > not a rectangle. With a custom tank fitted to the available volume
> (except
> > curving the tank bottom to conform with the curve of the hull) I will
get
> > about 18 gallons. I can't imagine getting more than about 10 to 12
with
> a
> > stock tank. The stock one I removed held 6 gallons.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
> > To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 8:55 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
> >
> >
> > > Maybe they cahnged some things since I did mine - now it looks like
> the
> > 5057
> > > is the right one. I am doing this from memory , but it seems to the
> the
> > > height was 16" not 19" as shown in the 5022. I will take some more
> > > measurements and let you know. I also, strongly advize that befor
> buying
> > any
> > > tank , that you make careful measurents of your boat since we have
> found
> > > some differences from one boat to another.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Lehman
> > > ><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: "Chris Lawrence" <chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca>
> > > Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> <public-list at alberg30.org>
> > > To: "'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'"
> <public-list at alberg30.org>
> > > Subject: RE: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
> > > Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:41:23 -0400
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > I looked at the Kracor website and Mold 5022 shown in your drawing
is
> > listed
> > > as having 17 gallons, not 15. So either Kracor has increased the
> capacity
> > of
> > > the mold by using thiner materials (the outside dimensions are the
> same
> > as
> > > in your drawing), or you have 2 more gallons of capacity with which
to
> > > surmount unforseen circumstances...see link below
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.kracor.com/support/holdingtanks.pdf
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris Lawrence
> > >
> > > Cirrus #500
> > >
> > > 24 Scarborough Road
> > > Toronto, Canada M4E 3M5
> > > T: 416-698-5136 F: 416-698-8953 E: chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: public-list-bounces at alberg30.org
> > > [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Lawrence
> > > Sent: 25 August 2004 18:43
> > > To: 'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'
> > > Subject: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Mike - this helps a lot - your install looks A1!
> > > The tank I have is in the undersole, and I believe it was factory
> > installed.
> > > The previous owner had glassed over the entire surface and
> subsequently
> > > caulked all around it; however it leaks and is now beyond repair. I
> think
> > an
> > > install in the forward berth makes more sense, because it is always
> > better
> > > to be able to see the bilges and I am thinking I will try and copy
> what
> > you
> > > have done.
> > >
> > > Thanks again and best regards
> > >
> > > Cirrus #500
> > >
> > > Chris Lawrence
> > > 24 Scarborough Road
> > > Toronto, Canada M4E 3M5
> > > T: 416-698-5136 F: 416-698-8953 E: chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: public-list-bounces at alberg30.org
> > > [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
> > > Sent: 25 August 2004 11:38
> > > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> > > Subject: RE: [Public-list] where is #277?
> > >
> > >
> > > My boat is hull #505 and I installed a Kracor 14 gallon tank under
the
> > > v-berth on the portside, just in front of the bulkhead. Did your
boat
> > have
> > a
> > >
> > > factory installed tank, or is the present tank from a previous
owner?
> My
> > > boat did not have a tank. To see some pictures of the installation
go
> to:
> > >
> > > http://alberg30.org/maintenance/disorganized/head/
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Lehman
> > > ><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: "Chris Lawrence" <chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca>
> > > Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> <public-list at alberg30.org>
> > > To: "'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'"
> <public-list at alberg30.org>
> > > Subject: RE: [Public-list] where is #277?
> > > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:04:33 -0400
> > >
> > > Has anyone replaced a waste holding tank recently and if so any tips
> and
> > > what did you replace with? Thanks
> > >
> > > Cirrus #500
> > >
> > > Chris Lawrence
> > > 24 Scarborough Road
> > > Toronto, Canada M4E 3M5
> > > T: 416-698-5136 F: 416-698-8953 E: chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca
> > >
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