[Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank

Mike Lehman sail_505 at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 7 08:26:22 PDT 2004


This is an especially good article on MSDs in general, scroll down the 
article to read about holding tanks:

http://boatbuilding.com/content/sanitation.html

Here's more and, if I had more time I could find you more reasons.

http://www.uaf.edu/seagrant/boatkeeper/heads.pdf





              Mike Lehman
><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>





----Original Message Follows----
From: "Roger L. Kingsland" <rkingsland101 at ksba.com>
Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
Subject: Re: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:35:59 -0400

Mike,

Could you direct me to some of the info you cite.  I checked with both my NA
and a tank manufacturer I found on the web and they said aluminum was not a
problem.  If I need to go w/ SS so be it, but the material cost about four
times as much as aluminum (so, what else should one expect whaen owning a
boat).

Thanks, Roger


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank


 > Roger,
 >
 > Don't use aluminum for waste holding tanks. There is loads of advice on
the
 > web and loads of good reasoning why to avoid aluminum.
 >
 >
 >
 >               Mike Lehman
 > ><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 > From: "Roger L. Kingsland" <rkingsland101 at ksba.com>
 > Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
 > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
 > Subject: Re: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
 > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 09:54:45 -0400
 >
 > Mike,
 >
 > I agree with you RE taking measurements.  If intended to go under the aft
 > end of the of a V berth, that tank would not come close to fitting in 
#148
 > (1966, no liner).  I am doing custom aluminum tanks and the best I can do
is
 > 18" deep and 18" port/starboard (about 27" fore/aft) for a tank that is
 > triangular in cross section.  Plus, the shape in plan is a parallelogram,
 > not a rectangle.  With a custom tank fitted to the available volume
(except
 > curving the tank bottom to conform with the curve of the hull) I will get
 > about 18 gallons.  I can't imagine getting more than about 10 to 12 with 
a
 > stock tank.  The stock one I removed held 6 gallons.
 >
 > Roger
 >
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
 > To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
 > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 8:55 AM
 > Subject: RE: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
 >
 >
 >  > Maybe they cahnged some things since I did mine - now it looks like 
the
 > 5057
 >  > is the right one. I am doing this from memory , but it seems to the 
the
 >  > height was 16" not 19" as shown in the 5022. I will take some more
 >  > measurements and let you know. I also, strongly advize that befor
buying
 > any
 >  > tank , that you make careful measurents of your boat since we have
found
 >  > some differences from one boat to another.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >               Mike Lehman
 >  > ><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > ----Original Message Follows----
 >  > From: "Chris Lawrence" <chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca>
 >  > Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
<public-list at alberg30.org>
 >  > To: "'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'" 
<public-list at alberg30.org>
 >  > Subject: RE: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
 >  > Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:41:23 -0400
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > Mike
 >  > I looked at the Kracor website and Mold 5022 shown in your drawing is
 > listed
 >  > as having 17 gallons, not 15. So either Kracor has increased the
capacity
 > of
 >  > the mold by using thiner materials (the outside dimensions are the 
same
 > as
 >  > in your drawing), or you have 2 more gallons of capacity with which to
 >  > surmount unforseen circumstances...see link below
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > http://www.kracor.com/support/holdingtanks.pdf
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > Chris Lawrence
 >  >
 >  > Cirrus #500
 >  >
 >  > 24 Scarborough Road
 >  > Toronto, Canada M4E 3M5
 >  > T: 416-698-5136 F: 416-698-8953 E: chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > -----Original Message-----
 >  > From: public-list-bounces at alberg30.org
 >  > [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Chris Lawrence
 >  > Sent: 25 August 2004 18:43
 >  > To: 'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'
 >  > Subject: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > Thanks Mike - this helps a lot - your install looks A1!
 >  > The tank I have is in the undersole, and I believe it was factory
 > installed.
 >  > The previous owner had glassed over the entire surface and 
subsequently
 >  > caulked all around it; however it leaks and is now beyond repair. I
think
 > an
 >  > install in the forward berth makes more sense, because it is always
 > better
 >  > to be able to see the bilges and I am thinking I will try and copy 
what
 > you
 >  > have done.
 >  >
 >  > Thanks again and best regards
 >  >
 >  > Cirrus #500
 >  >
 >  > Chris Lawrence
 >  > 24 Scarborough Road
 >  > Toronto, Canada M4E 3M5
 >  > T: 416-698-5136 F: 416-698-8953 E: chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > -----Original Message-----
 >  > From: public-list-bounces at alberg30.org
 >  > [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
 >  > Sent: 25 August 2004 11:38
 >  > To: public-list at alberg30.org
 >  > Subject: RE: [Public-list] where is #277?
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > My boat is hull #505 and I installed a Kracor 14 gallon tank under the
 >  > v-berth on the portside, just in front of the bulkhead. Did your boat
 > have
 > a
 >  >
 >  > factory installed tank, or is the present tank from a previous owner?
My
 >  > boat did not have a tank. To see some pictures of the installation go
to:
 >  >
 >  > http://alberg30.org/maintenance/disorganized/head/
 >  >
 >  > Hope this helps.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >                Mike Lehman
 >  >  ><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > ----Original Message Follows----
 >  > From: "Chris Lawrence" <chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca>
 >  > Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
<public-list at alberg30.org>
 >  > To: "'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'" 
<public-list at alberg30.org>
 >  > Subject: RE: [Public-list] where is #277?
 >  > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:04:33 -0400
 >  >
 >  > Has anyone replaced a waste holding tank recently and if so any tips
and
 >  > what did you replace with? Thanks
 >  >
 >  > Cirrus #500
 >  >
 >  > Chris Lawrence
 >  > 24 Scarborough Road
 >  > Toronto, Canada M4E 3M5
 >  > T: 416-698-5136 F: 416-698-8953 E: chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca
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