[Public-list] Holding Tank

Tue Nov 8 12:37:11 PST 2005

Good point Mike.  If the 500+ numbers are those funny "liner boats" all bets
are off for my feeble advice.

Roger

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Public-list] Holding Tank

> Peter,
>
> On thing to be careful about is that the advice you receive on this list
may
> be pertinent to a specific year of the boat. Roger has hull number 148,
and,
> if I remember correctly, your boat is a 500 series. There are a number of
> chnages that the factory did between those years. In particular to the
> forward water tank, on boats vintage #148 the tanks were all fiberglass,
> whereas your boat has an aluminum cover as the tank top.
>
>
>
> Mike Lehman
> ~~~_/)_/)~~_/)~~~
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Roger L Kingsland" <rkingsland101 at ksba.com>
> Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Subject: [Public-list] Holding Tank
> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:54:49 -0500
>
> Peter,
>
> Welcome to Albergland.  I have been restoring #148 for thee years (and two
> hip replacements) and, after filling several hundred large and small
holes,
> I just got the topsides (dark blue) and deck (white w/ "mushroom" no slip)
> painted.  I raised the main bunks (and added large drawers under) and
galley
> counter.  Diesel is back in after paint, hoses, SS exhaust and lining
engine
> compartment with barium impregnated vinyl (sound deadening).  Interior is
> ready for paint which I hope to do over the winter so I can finally get
her
> wet next season.  The big job for spring will be installing everything on
> deck.  I have found my fellow Algergers to be a great resource, patient,
> understanding and allot of fun at a party.
>
> Regarding holding tanks, I have been told even SS doesn't hold up to urine
> and only polypropylene will do the job.  I have started the conversion of
> the areas under the aft end of the V-berth into tanks holding about 18
> gallons each, one for holding.  Depending on trim after the barky is fully
> loaded, I could abandon the 30 gallon tank forward (or fill it only for
> bluewater sailing) and use other the new tank for water.  Or, keep the
> forward water tank and put fuel in the other new tank (I have moved the 11
> gallon diesel tank from the starboard cockpit locker to aft of the engine
> and under the cabin sole).
>
> I have, filled in the shelf holes in the bulkhead, fiberglassed the edges
so
> they are rounded, added baffles and built plywood covers.  Next step is to
> coat the interior with some stuff called SaniTread which is an elastomeric
> paint with polypropylene.  I will coat the inside of the covers, install
> while wet (with 2nd coat) and screw down the edges which will make then
> removable but not without some effort.  I also thought of installing
access
> ports (to check fluid level and seasonal clean out) but need to make sure
> they won't cause leaks.  The manufacturer assures me it will stand up to
> urine, poop and diesel (not necessarily together) but only time will tell.
> It is very flexible; their web site has a picture of a wicker basket
coated
> with the stuff and filled with water complete with a baby duck swimming
> therein.  If it doesn't hold a seal while flexing then, pull out the nose
> plugs.
>
> The plan is to run the piping through the bulkhead to the head or hanging
> locker.  Brass/bronze piping seals better with the SaniTread than plastic.
> I think it was George Dinwiddie who sent me a great link
>
(http://www.boatbuilding.com/article.phpstory=MarineSanitationFactvsFolklore
> &query=sanitationto) on marine sanitation that pointed out the importance
of
> ventilation.  I am contemplating a forward vent running to the side of the
> hull (high) in the rhode locker and an aft vent in the head area running
> either out the hull (in harms way because that's the fat part) or cabin
top;
> both 3/4" or even 1" in diameter.
>
> Of course, the pre-launch list is long and I might go with a port-a-potty
> until the higher priorities are finished.  Best of luck with your
> restoration, sometimes the seems the fun never stops.
>
> Roger Kingsland
> Chief Boat Boy, Rubber/Scraper and Check Writer
> Alberg 30 #148, PERFECT intentions
> N40°29.2864'  W79°54.2202'
>
> "You don't have to think outside of the box, but it doesn't hurt to peek
> over the edge once in a while."
> Leonardo Da Vinci (or somebody like that)
>
> Roger Kingsland
> Managing Partner
> KSBA Architects
> N40°- 27.83'  W79°- 57.99'
>
>
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