[Public-list] inverter - sheet splicing Genoa leads

[John Birch]

Memory serves it is called a brummel - on woven rode, not twist - too much 
stretch with twist. Its a rarely used splice but has held up beautifully 
over the past 10 years. You'll have to look it up I'm afraid since we 
haven't needed to do it twice I have forgotten how. It is spliced in the 
middle of the sheet which and done tightly so the splice doesn't work around 
and wear in the clew ring. Did it from a splicing book.

Maybe Gord knows what it is called ?

John



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J Bergquist" <jbergqui at gmail.com>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] inverter


> John-
>
> Is that mid-splice a core-to-core splice or is it sewn together and 
> whipped?
>
>
> If core-to-core, how exactly do you do that? I assume your lines are
> double-braid. Not sure I see how that would work without running an end
> through. is there something I am missing? Can you do it like a mobius
> brummel by tucking twice and collapsing then pulling the middle back 
> through
> each collapsed tuck sequentially? Can you then get the cover to swallow it
> back up?
>
> J
>
> On 10/11/06, John Birch <Sunstone at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>
>> We stopped using shackles on genoa & jib clews a number of years ago. We
>> use
>> a continuous line mid spliced to the clew which reduces sheet hang-up
>> during
>> tacks. I highly recommend it, particularly on roller furlers as you 
>> seldom
>> change sails. We keep a spare set of sheets if we have to change out 
>> sails
>> for tying on. On Chutes we use a shackle and Gord's line is ideal for 
>> that
>> purpose.
>>
>> Hope this is a help.
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Public-list] inverter
>>
>>
>> > Hi there -
>> >
>> > I think 3:1 would usually be enough... Although you might wish for more
>> > the
>> > few days of the year there is a gale blowing during a race.
>> >
>> > I think 7/16 is good for genoa sheets; strength is not an issue; 
>> > comfort
>> > on
>> > the hand is the thing.  Bigger is better, but you will resent the 
>> > weight
>> > when sailing in light airs.
>> >
>> > We use a bronze snap shackle for the genny clew but it is lethal when
>> > flogging and I am going back to tying bowlines.
>> >
>> > Our spinnaker sheets are 5/16" poly sheathed dyneema... Very light,
>> don't
>> > absorb water and thick enough to hold in most conditions.  We use small
>> > bronze snap shackles for the clews .
>> >
>> > Gord
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> I am thinking of installing an inverter. Has anybody got any 
>> >> particular
>> >> items for discussion on this topic?
>> >>
>> >> Also, I bought some sweet Schaeffer towable jib leads on sale at APS
>> and
>> >> want to rig them up. Any advice on how much purchase is needed to move
>> >> the
>> >> leads around smoothly with the jib loaded up? Is 3:1 enough? I saw 
>> >> some
>> >> boats at the show have 4 or 5:1.
>> >>
>> >> What size jib sheets do most people use? Mine are monster 1/2" line
>> that
>> >> I
>> >> bought at Bacons before I knew anything about buying line. I want to
>> >> replace
>> >> them and was thinking 3/8".  I have heard some people say they like
>> 7/16"
>> >> is
>> >> that for strength or for cleat holding? How do most folks attach
>> >> jibsheets
>> >> to the clew? Currently I use a lark's head which is nice because there
>> is
>> >> no
>> >> metal at the sheet/clew interface, no chance of catching on something,
>> >> and
>> >> it's never slipped on me yet. But I was thinking of maybe splicing
>> these
>> >> lines to the clew (then have a set for each sail...a bit expensive...)
>> or
>> >> using a shackle. I have seen some people just use bowlines. I'd be
>> >> interested in knowing if anybody has a particularly good method for
>> doing
>> >> this.
>> >>
>> >> Finally, what do people use for light weather spinnaker sheets?
>> Diameter?
>> >> Means of attachment? I figure you could use a VERY small ronstan
>> shackle
>> >> spliced to the sheet and that would probably be no heavier than a
>> >> bowline.
>> >> Has anybody tried the plastic shackles? They are really light.
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> J Bergquist
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> These businesses support your Association:
>> >> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>> >> Please support them.
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Public-list mailing list
>> >> Public-list at alberg30.org
>> >> http://alberg30.org/mailman/listinfo/public-list
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > These businesses support your Association:
>> > http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>> > Please support them.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Public-list mailing list
>> > Public-list at alberg30.org
>> > http://alberg30.org/mailman/listinfo/public-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> These businesses support your Association:
>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
>> Please support them.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Public-list mailing list
>> Public-list at alberg30.org
>> http://alberg30.org/mailman/listinfo/public-list
>>
> _______________________________________________
> These businesses support your Association:
> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> Please support them.
> _______________________________________________
> Public-list mailing list
> Public-list at alberg30.org
> http://alberg30.org/mailman/listinfo/public-list 


 1160585376.0