[Public-list] inverter - sheet splicing Genoa leads

[Gordon Laco]

Hi there -

'fraid I've never heard of that but would be interested in seeing it.

G






> Memory serves it is called a brummel - on woven rode, not twist - too much
> stretch with twist. Its a rarely used splice but has held up beautifully
> over the past 10 years. You'll have to look it up I'm afraid since we
> haven't needed to do it twice I have forgotten how. It is spliced in the
> middle of the sheet which and done tightly so the splice doesn't work around
> and wear in the clew ring. Did it from a splicing book.
> 
> Maybe Gord knows what it is called ?
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J Bergquist" <jbergqui at gmail.com>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] inverter
> 
> 
>> John-
>> 
>> Is that mid-splice a core-to-core splice or is it sewn together and
>> whipped?
>> 
>> 
>> If core-to-core, how exactly do you do that? I assume your lines are
>> double-braid. Not sure I see how that would work without running an end
>> through. is there something I am missing? Can you do it like a mobius
>> brummel by tucking twice and collapsing then pulling the middle back
>> through
>> each collapsed tuck sequentially? Can you then get the cover to swallow it
>> back up?
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> On 10/11/06, John Birch <Sunstone at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We stopped using shackles on genoa & jib clews a number of years ago. We
>>> use
>>> a continuous line mid spliced to the clew which reduces sheet hang-up
>>> during
>>> tacks. I highly recommend it, particularly on roller furlers as you
>>> seldom
>>> change sails. We keep a spare set of sheets if we have to change out
>>> sails
>>> for tying on. On Chutes we use a shackle and Gord's line is ideal for
>>> that
>>> purpose.
>>> 
>>> Hope this is a help.
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
>>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-list] inverter
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi there -
>>>> 
>>>> I think 3:1 would usually be enough... Although you might wish for more
>>>> the
>>>> few days of the year there is a gale blowing during a race.
>>>> 
>>>> I think 7/16 is good for genoa sheets; strength is not an issue;
>>>> comfort
>>>> on
>>>> the hand is the thing.  Bigger is better, but you will resent the
>>>> weight
>>>> when sailing in light airs.
>>>> 
>>>> We use a bronze snap shackle for the genny clew but it is lethal when
>>>> flogging and I am going back to tying bowlines.
>>>> 
>>>> Our spinnaker sheets are 5/16" poly sheathed dyneema... Very light,
>>> don't
>>>> absorb water and thick enough to hold in most conditions.  We use small
>>>> bronze snap shackles for the clews .
>>>> 
>>>> Gord
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I am thinking of installing an inverter. Has anybody got any
>>>>> particular
>>>>> items for discussion on this topic?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, I bought some sweet Schaeffer towable jib leads on sale at APS
>>> and
>>>>> want to rig them up. Any advice on how much purchase is needed to move
>>>>> the
>>>>> leads around smoothly with the jib loaded up? Is 3:1 enough? I saw
>>>>> some
>>>>> boats at the show have 4 or 5:1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What size jib sheets do most people use? Mine are monster 1/2" line
>>> that
>>>>> I
>>>>> bought at Bacons before I knew anything about buying line. I want to
>>>>> replace
>>>>> them and was thinking 3/8".  I have heard some people say they like
>>> 7/16"
>>>>> is
>>>>> that for strength or for cleat holding? How do most folks attach
>>>>> jibsheets
>>>>> to the clew? Currently I use a lark's head which is nice because there
>>> is
>>>>> no
>>>>> metal at the sheet/clew interface, no chance of catching on something,
>>>>> and
>>>>> it's never slipped on me yet. But I was thinking of maybe splicing
>>> these
>>>>> lines to the clew (then have a set for each sail...a bit expensive...)
>>> or
>>>>> using a shackle. I have seen some people just use bowlines. I'd be
>>>>> interested in knowing if anybody has a particularly good method for
>>> doing
>>>>> this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally, what do people use for light weather spinnaker sheets?
>>> Diameter?
>>>>> Means of attachment? I figure you could use a VERY small ronstan
>>> shackle
>>>>> spliced to the sheet and that would probably be no heavier than a
>>>>> bowline.
>>>>> Has anybody tried the plastic shackles? They are really light.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>> J Bergquist
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