[Public-list] #2

[J Bergquist]

Gordon-

Can you tell me rough dimensions, cloth weight, and wind range for your #3?

Also, what do people consider the correct wind range for using a #2? Having
never had one, I have no real idea. I was thinking something like 18-25
knots. Is that about right? Speaking of wind ranges...my thought is as
follows:

0-12 full main, full #1.
12-18 Full #1, reefed main
18-22 #2, Full main
23-28 #2, Reefed main
Over 28, #3, reefed main.

thoughts? Does that sound about right? Again, sorry if these are dumb
questions. I am not a very experienced keelboat sailor... Not used to having
3 different headsails.

J

On 10/12/06, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
>
> Good morning -
>
> Shorter luffs were common in the 'old days' because of the good effect of
> lowering the centre of area on stability.  Today people tend to like
> longer
> luffs because it is felt narrow sails perform better upwind.  Both are
> right
> ... but I went long luff for my sail.
>
> The seam pattern is called 'mitre cut' and until somewhat recently was the
> normal way to set up the seam patterns of a sail.  It is not in fashion
> now
> but it did allow the sailmaker to build very subtle shapes in a sail...but
> was more work.  You generally don't see them anymore.
>
> I believe in going one weight up from what the sailmaker recommends for a
> particular sail... It will cost you a little more but you will end up with
> a
> good strong sail that will keep its shape longer.  I did not do this with
> my
> 140 genny, but did with the #3 and will when I have a main built
> (hopefully
> this winter).
>
> Cheers -
>
> Gord #426 Suprise
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Past Association Commodore Bob Kirk was kind enough to give me his old
> #2. I
> > measured it last night with a friend in the middle of my street and the
> > dimensions I found are as follows:
> >
> > Luff 31'4" with a 3'4" wire pendant at the top
> > Foot 14' 11.5"
> > Leech 30' 4"
> > LP 14' 2.25" (this makes it a 135% sail)
> > Height of LP 4' 8.75"
> >
> > This sail was very old and I did not have tackle to stretch it really
> hard,
> > so we were just doing that by hand on my driveway. It says 'Ulmer" which
> > apparently is UK before they were UK.
> >
> > There is a lot of leech hollow.
> >
> > I was surprised at the short luff. This seems strange to me for a #2. I
> > expected the sail to be full hoist (luff dimension of at least 34 ft). I
> > would be interested in hearing people's thoughts on these measurements -
> > whether they are good numbers to shoot for, or whether they are too big
> or
> > too small (particularly LP, foot dimension, and luff length).
> >
> > There was kind of a strange seaming pattern. One seam ran from clew to
> luff,
> > ending a few feet above LP. Below this seam, panel seams ran vertically
> > (more or less parallel to the luff). Above this seam, panel seams were
> cross
> > cut (more or less parallel to the foot).
> >
> > I have gotten concrete sail quotes from UK, North, and Sail Rite. The
> Sail
> > Rite guy assures me that if I build one of his sails it will be just as
> good
> > as a brand name sail. My thought is not only will I save some money, but
> I
> > will also get to learn how to do canvaswork which would enable me to do
> my
> > own sail, cover, and upholstery repairs in the future.
> >
> > All the quotes seem to be built around cloth weight of 6.5 Oz to 7 Oz.
> Any
> > thoughts on that?
> >
> > I appreciate y'alls patience and input on this. Sorry to be so dense. I
> just
> > want to be an informed customer rather than just asking the sailmaker to
> > figure everythign out for me. Since I am kind of an idiot when it comes
> to
> > sailmaking, I am probably asking things that some of you think are
> silly.
> > Again, preciate your patience.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > J Bergquist
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