[Public-list] Rot in bulkheads beneath chainplates

Mon Feb 19 17:31:20 PST 2007

Hi Mike:

Hull number 496 - Sounds to me that you took the same steps that I outlined
in my earlier post. I plan to do as you did as I see it as a maintenance
item that should be addressed before any significant damage is done.

Thanks

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Brian

What is your hull #?

On the liner boats (I own #505 and co-own #567) both liner boats. I have
noticed that on a lot [most] of the liner boats there is a deflection right
at the point where the forward knees are attached. This is most noticable
when sighting down the cove stripe. I had that too on 505 but repaired it by
pushing out the hull [with tension off the rig] and glassing in the
horizontal shelves in the forward cabin. The shelves are secondary
structural members, but since they wre pop-riveted in place, they did not
provide much lateral support. While I was at it I strenghtened the forward
knees.

Mike Lehman
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Subject: Re: [Public-list] Rot in bulkheads beneath chainplates
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:06:15 -0800

Is that why I have a depression on one side of the hull? The knees currently
do not fit tight to the underside of the deck. I assumed that it was to
prevent any obstruction between the hull and the deck when bonding the two
together. No sense in creating a hassle when in production mode - better to
leave the knees short and fully encased in fiberglass. Having said that...If
I release some of the tension on the shroud, release the rivets on the
bulkhead, use a jack and timber to carefully push the hull out, fill in the
knee to the deck and rebuild the structural flange to the bulkhead...do you
think that the hull will recover it's fair shape and overall produce a
stronger attachment point for the chain plates in that area?...I think I
have answered my own question...looking for support...

Brian

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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org]On Behalf Of George Dinwiddie
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Rachel wrote:
 > On Feb 18, 2007, at 1:15 PM, George Dinwiddie wrote:
 >
 >>   Glassing in new knees should be relatively
 >> straightforward.  You might want to make them longer, at the same time,
 >> to spread the load over a larger contact with the hull.  Be sure to
 >> make
 >> the knees butt tightly against the underside of the deck.
 >
 > George,
 >
 > Just curious why you specify that the knees should butt tightly up to
 > the deck?  I know that, for example, on the Triton, the knees are an
 > inch or so shy of the deck on purpose.  I would think that you would
 > want all of the upwards stress on the hull and not the deck.  Now I'm
 > not saying that they can't get anywhere near the deck, but (and maybe
 > I'm missing something here), I wouldn't think that it would be
 > something to necessarily strive for.

Because if there's space, the knees will pivot to fill it, pulling in on
the sides of the hull.

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