[Public-List] furling New Main Sail

Tue Nov 27 12:56:29 PST 2007

Thanks John - your logic is sound .  I will take this up with Ron when I see
him.

G

> Hi Gord,
> 
> Picture 2 of 8 on my web space has a good shot of the two ply leach on
> Sunstone http://sunstone-web.spaces.live.com/
> 
> Warning to CPC supporters though, my blogs are none too kind to our
> honourable PM & his Govt. So if yer a conservative ye might not like it one
> bit ; )
> 
> On things pelagic though, which is what really matters, the main is a
> phenomenal sail, it has very little shelf (like the originals did) and is
> fairly flat as are the head sails which are cut to account for some greater
> headstay sag which occurs on Albergs. Although we have a backstay adjuster,
> I don't like cranking the beejesus out of it as all it does after a while is
> bend the boat. Better to cut the sails to accommodate some sag for better
> pointing. I'll leave it to the Cuppers to put 30,000lb of tension on - we
> like our boat too much
> 
> ATB
> 
> John
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] furling New Main Sail
> 
> 
>> That sounds like a great idea - I will ask Ron to do mine that way.
>> 
>> G
>> 
>> 
>>> Fine sails from Triton - my main has a two ply leach about 2 feet of it =
>>> 16oz of cloth when doubled over. Where do mains always fail ?! At the
>>> leach.
>>> Have a #1 & #3 as well all about 10 years old - great sails.
>>> 
>>> Win races too.
>>> 
>>> ATB
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
>>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] furling New Main Sail
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi Michael -
>>>> 
>>>> I ordered from Triton Sails; Ron, who runs the loft is the son of Joe
>>>> Fernandes, who made sails for Whitby Boatworks while our boats were in
>>>> production.
>>>> 
>>>> My new main will have two reefs, conventional battens and a leach line.
>>>> I
>>>> have asked Ron to make it a weight heavier than normal - they did my
>>>> Folkboat main that way and I really appreciated the stiffness and
>>>> longevity.
>>>> 
>>>> G
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Gord,
>>>>> 
>>>>> What type of main sail did you order?  Who was the manufacturer?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
>>>>> In my Tom Taylor Co days we sold the American 'Cruising Design' furler
>>>>> that
>>>>> operated the same way... Integral halyard with no top swivel. It worked
>>>>> OK
>>>>> on small boats but people used to complain that they could not get
>>>>> enough
>>>>> halyard tension on it. CD came up with a 4:1 tackle to haul down on the
>>>>> tack of the headsail in an attempt to let people put on appropriate
>>>>> tension,
>>>>> but that ended up a bit of a pickle with the tail of the tackle coming
>>>>> off
>>>>> and getting into the furling line spool. We started offering a velcro
>>>>> fastened sheath to keep the tackle contained... But that was starting
>>>>> to
>>>>> get
>>>>> complicated - band aids on top of band aids...
>>>>> 
>>>>> On a happier note, I finally ordered a new mainsail yesterday. Nice
>>>>> Christmas present to myself...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gord #426
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a Simplicite furler in my shed that came with the boat. I took
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> for two reasons: First, I had 3 hank on headsails that I wanted to use
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> only 1 rather worn sail with a luff rope for use on the furler.
>>>>>> Second,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Simplicite has a built in halyard that puts the extrusion in
>>>>>> compression
>>>>>> when tensioning the sail luff. This keeps the cost down because you
>>>>>> dont
>>>>>> need a halyard bearing at the top of th extrusion but I found that it
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> difficult or impossible to set up the luff tension properly. Also you
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to go forward to the furler to make any adjustments to halyard tension
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> underway.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The furler is very simple and because of this, unlikely to break or
>>>>>> malfunction. If the above are not concerns for your type of sailing
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> unit
>>>>>> works very well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> By the way, the one in my shed is all set up for an A30 and is for
>>>>>> sale
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you are interested.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Philip
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "John Birch"
>>>>>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:33 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] furling
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a Schaeffer System - the 1100 would be perfect for an A-30. It
>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>> round section, double grooved alumuminium extrusion and is
>>>>>>> excellent -
>>>>>>> nicest looking of all the furlers and adds aesthetically to the Boat
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We own an A-37, so we have the Schaeffer 2000 - had it for 10 years
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Re: pointing. Course racing against fin keelers we have found that
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pointing, although marginally impeded, has not stopped us from
>>>>>>> winning
>>>>>>> several regattas both on corrected time, but also taking line
>>>>>>> honours -
>>>>>>> ie
>>>>>>> first over the finish line against X Boats and Comfortina 42s so I
>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>> worry about pointing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Two club members have the Simplicite and I have handled it and seen
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> close and under load. Its section diameter is much larger than the
>>>>>>> Schaeffer - but not as strong. My opinion, morceau de merde (Google
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> phrase if you don't parlez the language).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My advice, spend the extra nickel and buy a Schaeffer
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You won't regret it
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> JMHO
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ATB
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
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